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SAY IT AINT SO SOSA!!!!!!!!!!

#1 Postby chadtm80 » Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:26 pm

Sosa ejected after cork is found in shattered bat

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CHICAGO -- Chicago Cubs star Sammy Sosa was ejected in the first inning of Tuesday night's game against Tampa Bay right when umpires found cork in his shattered bat.

ESPN's Harold Reynolds reports -- after talking to a a representative in the Cubs public relations department -- that Sosa will admit in his postgame presser that the bat he used tonight was corked.

Sosa will say the illegal bat was used for batting practice, but somehow got mixed in with his game bats. He will add that he has never used a corked bat in a major league game before tonight.

The Cubs had runners at second and third when Sosa broke his bat with a grounder to second that at first appeared to drive in a run.

But crew chief Tim McClelland gathered with the other three umpires to examine the bat. Cubs manager Dusty Baker came out and the umpires showed the bat to him.

Mark Grudzielanek was sent back to third base, the run was wiped off the board and Sosa was ejected as he stood in the dugout. Umpires took part of the bat into the Cubs dugout and down the runway toward their clubhouse.


Cork inside a wooden bat is thought to help players hit the ball farther and is against baseball rules. Several players have been caught using altered bats in the past, including Albert Belle, Wilton Guerrero, Billy Hatcher and Graig Nettles.


"Unfortunately, it's a dirty mark, when you consider all he's accomplished,'' Yankees manager Joe Torre said of Sosa. "It's really unfortunate for the game. Everybody's scratching their heads right now. ... It's embarrassing. He's too good of a player. It's too bad.''


Sosa just came off the disabled last Friday after having the nail taken off his big right toe and missing 17 games.


Entering Tuesday, he was just 2-for-15 in his three games since coming off the DL, including one five-strikeout game in which he also had the game-winning single against Houston.


Sosa, a six-time All-Star who reached 500 career homers earlier this season, hasn't had a homer since May 1 and his power numbers have dropped drastically since he was beaned April 20 by the Pirates' Salomon Torres.


He has just six homers this season and 24 RBI, while batting .285.


Sosa has the most 60-homer seasons (three) in major league history, hitting 66 in 1998, 63 in 1999 and 64 in 2001.


Chicago's then Comiskey Park was the site of one of baseball's biggest corked bat capers in July 1994 when the bat of Belle, then with Cleveland, was confiscated.


Umpires took it to their dressing room before an Indians teammate crawled across the ceiling and switched Belle's confiscated bat with one belonging to a teammate.


Once the caper was discovered, the original bat was finally examined and Belle was suspended for 10 games, a penalty that was reduced to seven games.


Guerrero, then with the Los Angeles Dodgers, was suspended for eight games in 1997 for using cork in his bat.


Hatcher was suspended for 10 days in 1987 after using a corked bat for Houston. It was the first such ejection since Nettles, then with the New York Yankees, was tossed in 1974.

Im sooooo upset.. This guy was one of the LAST reasons i watched baseball... I'm heart broken :cry:
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#2 Postby mf_dolphin » Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:31 pm

And it was against the Tampa Bay Devil Rays! Not hardly necessary against their pitching!!! I wonder how many games he'll be suspended for? I don't but the "practice bat" dodge. Why would you use a corked bat for practice when you couldn't use it in the game.
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#3 Postby azskyman » Tue Jun 03, 2003 10:48 pm

Sammy doesn't need to stoop to that. He's been a classy guy...especially for a Cubbie.

If he's guilty..he needs the suspension.
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#4 Postby j » Wed Jun 04, 2003 7:29 am

Normally I'd be all over somebody for this, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and give Sosa the benefit of a doubt. His explanation is simply that he uses the bat during batting practice and accidentally grabbed it. Why should we give him the benefit of the doubt? Because Sosa, unlike many of his immoral comrades in professional sports, gives back a huge amount of his salary to his home community. Sosa is a generous, charitable man (now don't get me wrong..I'm not saying the man is starving by any means), that has shown himself to be a man of extrememly high moral conduct.

Now...if this was somebody like A. Jones...I'd say ban him for life!
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#5 Postby JCT777 » Wed Jun 04, 2003 7:55 am

I just hope this does not ruin his reputation. I am not sure whether to believe his story about accidentally grabbing a bat he uses for BP. But I don't think he has been using a corked bat for many years and that a lot of his home runs are tainted. It's very possible that this is something very recent, based on on his poor performance at the plate since returning from his stint on the DL.
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#6 Postby mf_dolphin » Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:00 am

They confiscated the rest of his bats from the dugout. I wonder if we'll ever hear the results of the test on them?
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#7 Postby VAWXWatcher6 » Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:07 am

I heard on the news last night he will be out at least 10 games if he is found he was cheating but i don't know this for sure so maybe someone in here can tell you how long he may be out...
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#8 Postby BreinLa » Wed Jun 04, 2003 8:42 am

Oh Sammy what the heck are you doing corking a dang bat sheeesh It's against the rules Dude lol I guess I shouldn't be surprised that he did it cause I am sure if they checked all dugouts and bats before a game we wouldn't have many players left to play. Just blows me away!!!!!!!
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#9 Postby bfez1 » Wed Jun 04, 2003 10:20 am

Stupidity, sheer stupidity that can cost him is reputation and his career. I don't get it, I just don't get it. :roll: :roll: :roll:
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#10 Postby Stephanie » Wed Jun 04, 2003 12:19 pm

I hope it ain't so Sammy! I've always liked him! :(
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#11 Postby Pburgh » Wed Jun 04, 2003 12:27 pm

I don't know much about baseball, but Isn't there a weight difference between a corked bat and a regular bat?? Seems he would have known the difference as soon as he selected it. I'm with JCT777 on this one. I just don't think he thought he'd get caught. What a shame.
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#12 Postby Stephanie » Wed Jun 04, 2003 12:33 pm

Pburgh wrote:I don't know much about baseball, but Isn't there a weight difference between a corked bat and a regular bat?? Seems he would have known the difference as soon as he selected it. I'm with JCT777 on this one. I just don't think he thought he'd get caught. What a shame.


Yes there is a difference in the weight - thus the ball could be hit further.

I can't believe that he wouldn't have thought that he might end up breaking a bat somewhere along the line! I guess we'll find out soon enough!
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#13 Postby David » Wed Jun 04, 2003 12:58 pm

IMO he made an honest mistake. He told the truth that he uses a corked bat for batting practice, and just grabbed the wrong bat, probably to caught up in a conversation or something.
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#14 Postby j » Wed Jun 04, 2003 1:56 pm

more on the corked bat theory....Sammy has said he uses the corked bat during batting practice not for his benefit, (as using a lighter bat that gives you a quicker swing will do nothing to help you when you get up to the plate later with the heavier bat), but for the benefit of the fans who want to see him popping ball after ball out of the park during warm-ups.

Hard point to argue, and I'll use a golf analogy to illustrate. Often a golfer will use 2 clubs, to practice swing on the tee box...this is to make the one that counts seem "effortless". This is also a common practice with baseball players in the on-deck circle.

You can believe this two ways. You can ask, why in the hell would he use a lighter bat for warming up, unless what he says about wanting to play it up for the fans is true? 0r.. you can believe he is lying about everything including wanting to put on a show for the fans and he uses corked bats....period!

I'm going with his story...I hope I'm right for once :)
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#15 Postby southerngale » Wed Jun 04, 2003 1:57 pm

I'd like to give him the benefit of the doubt, but it is hard. I've always liked Sosa. Being the HUGE Astros fan that I am, my little boy was given a Sosa shirt and we let him wear it! ;)

Does the cork bat look exactly the same as one of his other bats? If not, wouldn't he have noticed at some point before actually swinging the thing?

But then again, as often as bats break during games, I wouldn't think he would risk his reputation and take that chance.

Also, if he knew his CORK bat just broke, don't you think he would have scrambled to pick up the pieces before the umpires instead of running to first base? I would think getting an out would be worth it if he knew his cork bat just broke and was about to possibly ruin his reputation, not to mention a multi-game suspension and fine. Instead, he dropped the other half of the bat he was holding right there by the plate umpire and ran to first.

I really want to believe him, but it's not easy.
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#16 Postby David » Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:25 pm

ESPN has a special on it currently....
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#17 Postby Stormsfury » Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:56 pm

j wrote:Normally I'd be all over somebody for this, but I'm going to go out on a limb here and give Sosa the benefit of a doubt. His explanation is simply that he uses the bat during batting practice and accidentally grabbed it. Why should we give him the benefit of the doubt? Because Sosa, unlike many of his immoral comrades in professional sports, gives back a huge amount of his salary to his home community. Sosa is a generous, charitable man (now don't get me wrong..I'm not saying the man is starving by any means), that has shown himself to be a man of extrememly high moral conduct.

Now...if this was somebody like A. Jones...I'd say ban him for life!


I agree that Sosa made IMO, an honest mistake, and that's why he's spoken with ESPN, and the media about the incident, admitted that he takes responsibly for making the mistake ...

Andruw Jones? ... Maybe, Chipper, but not Andruw...I'm been a Braves Fan for almost 20 years now ... A family friend had a boy who was terminally ill (and since has passed on) and one of his last requests was to have autographs of the entire Braves team a few years back, especially Chipper Jones, when he got the opportunity to see a Braves game...every single member of the Braves team was more than happy to sign a ball for him, including John Rocker, all except for one player...his idol (at that time, anyway), Chipper Jones ... Chipper flat out refused to sign the ball ... Can you imagine the heartbreak that boy felt? ...

Sorry to go a little off-topic with this.

But ESPN did a little Did you know segment this morning...interestingly, a corked bat only goes 1.1 second faster (something like that), soooo, a ball that would normally be hit, say by Sosa, like 400 feet ... with a corked bat would go ... 404 feet ...
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#18 Postby David » Wed Jun 04, 2003 2:59 pm

On the ESPN special, someone who had Sammy's bat, which he hit HR 498, cut it open. (Had a value up to 10,000 bucks. :o) It had no cork.
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#19 Postby Stormsfury » Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:03 pm

David wrote:On the ESPN special, someone who had Sammy's bat, which he hit HR 498, cut it open. (Had a value up to 10,000 bucks. :o) It had no cork.


I saw that ... and the operative word - had a value of $10,000 ...
Anyway, I'm not surprised that the bat wasn't corked ... I still believe that Sosa just made an honest mistake, and hope that his image is not tarnished.
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#20 Postby David » Wed Jun 04, 2003 3:13 pm

Stormsfury wrote:
David wrote:On the ESPN special, someone who had Sammy's bat, which he hit HR 498, cut it open. (Had a value up to 10,000 bucks. :o) It had no cork.


I saw that ... and the operative word - had a value of $10,000 ...
Anyway, I'm not surprised that the bat wasn't corked ... I still believe that Sosa just made an honest mistake, and hope that his image is not tarnished.


His image will be tarnished until he retires, and it'll probably carry over after that. Even if that's the only bat which had cork, he still got caught. A honest mistake? Possibly. But it still happened, and thats how it goes.
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