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Is profiling wrong?

#1 Postby j » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:29 pm

Something to think about----

Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice test. The events are actual cuts from past history. They actually happened!!!

Do you remember?

-1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
a. Superman
b. Jay Lenno
c. Harry Potter
d. Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40

1. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by
a. Olga Corbett
b. Sitting Bull
c. Arno! ld Schwarzenegger
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

2. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
a. Lost Norwegians
b. Elvis
c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

3.During the ! 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
a. John Dillinger
b. The King of Sweden
c. The Boy Scouts
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

4. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
a. A pizza delivery boy
b. Pee Wee Herman
c. Geraldo Rivera
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

5. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair by:
a. The Smurfs
b. Davy Jones
c. The Little Mermaid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

6.In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying to rescue passengers was murdered by:
a. Captain Kidd
b. Charles Lindberg
c. Mother Teresa
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

7.In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
a. Scooby Doo
b. The Tooth Fairy
c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

8. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
a. Richard Simmons ; b. Grandma Moses
c. Michael Jordan
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

9.In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
a. Mr. Rogers
b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill' s women problems
c. The World Wrestling Federation
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

10.On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed
into the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the passengers.Thousands of people were killed by:
a. Bugs Bunny, Wiley E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
b. The Supreme Court of Florida
c. Mr. Bean
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

11.In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
a. Enron
b. The Lutheran Church
c. The NFL
d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

12. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
a. Bonnie and Clyde
b. Captain Kangaroo
c. Billy Graham
! ; & nbsp; d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40


13. 2004 - Spain Railway bombings.
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

AND NOW !

14. 2005 London Railway bombings
Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40

Nope, I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?

So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women, little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal hips, and Medal of Honor winning and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave
Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone because of profiling.
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#2 Postby wxcrazytwo » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:32 pm

Hmm, you forgot the oklahoma bombings and most of the failed terrorist plots here in good ole American were white Americans. Oh I see, you didn't want to show that right... :wink:
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#3 Postby GalvestonDuck » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:40 pm

wxcrazytwo wrote:Hmm, you forgot the oklahoma bombings and most of the failed terrorist plots here in good ole American were white Americans. Oh I see, you didn't want to show that right... :wink:


Which failed terrorist plots?

Of course, you can't always profile every group. After all, aren't many child molestors, serial killers, and KKK'ers all white Christian men? Doesn't mean all of them are.

Nevertheless, why NOT profile them? They are waging a jihad against us. They are the enemy. And as prejudiced as it sounds, it is typically what they look like.
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#4 Postby southerngale » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:43 pm

I agree j and duckie. Why NOT?
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#5 Postby wxcrazytwo » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:47 pm

GalvestonDuck wrote:
wxcrazytwo wrote:Hmm, you forgot the oklahoma bombings and most of the failed terrorist plots here in good ole American were white Americans. Oh I see, you didn't want to show that right... :wink:


Which failed terrorist plots?

Of course, you can't always profile every group. After all, aren't many child molestors, serial killers, and KKK'ers all white Christian men? Doesn't mean all of them are.

Nevertheless, why NOT profile them? They are waging a jihad against us. They are the enemy. And as prejudiced as it sounds, it is typically what they look like.


Maybe, if we quit occupying their land, we won't need to. Plus, it is pure and simple discrimination, and would make a bad precedent...
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#6 Postby southerngale » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:48 pm

wxcrazytwo wrote:
GalvestonDuck wrote:
wxcrazytwo wrote:Hmm, you forgot the oklahoma bombings and most of the failed terrorist plots here in good ole American were white Americans. Oh I see, you didn't want to show that right... :wink:


Which failed terrorist plots?

Of course, you can't always profile every group. After all, aren't many child molestors, serial killers, and KKK'ers all white Christian men? Doesn't mean all of them are.

Nevertheless, why NOT profile them? They are waging a jihad against us. They are the enemy. And as prejudiced as it sounds, it is typically what they look like.


Maybe, if we quit occupying their land, we won't need to.
Plus, it is pure and simple discrimination, and would make a bad precedent...


You've GOT to be kidding me!
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#7 Postby sunny » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:48 pm

wxcrazytwo wrote:Maybe, if we quit occupying their land, we won't need to. Plus, it is pure and simple discrimination, and would make a bad precedent...


Oh come on crazy. They brought the war here to us in our homeland on September 11. Don't forget that.
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#8 Postby GalvestonDuck » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:52 pm

wxcrazytwo wrote:Maybe, if we quit occupying their land, we won't need to.


Maybe if they'd stay in their land...and quit trying to tell us we're infidels and the "Great Satan."
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#9 Postby gtalum » Thu Aug 18, 2005 2:59 pm

There's a serious problem with profiling. Once arab muslims realize they're being profiled, they'll just get someone else to do their dirty work. There are caucasian, asian, and african muslims, none of whom look like arabs.
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#10 Postby feederband » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:02 pm

wxcrazytwo wrote:
GalvestonDuck wrote:
wxcrazytwo wrote:Hmm, you forgot the oklahoma bombings and most of the failed terrorist plots here in good ole American were white Americans. Oh I see, you didn't want to show that right... :wink:


Which failed terrorist plots?

Of course, you can't always profile every group. After all, aren't many child molestors, serial killers, and KKK'ers all white Christian men? Doesn't mean all of them are.

Nevertheless, why NOT profile them? They are waging a jihad against us. They are the enemy. And as prejudiced as it sounds, it is typically what they look like.


Maybe, if we quit occupying their land, we won't need to. Plus, it is pure and simple discrimination, and would make a bad precedent...




I don't remember occupying anyone's land on 9/11....
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#11 Postby feederband » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:05 pm

gtalum wrote:There's a serious problem with profiling. Once arab muslims realize they're being profiled, they'll just get someone else to do their dirty work. There are caucasian, asian, and african muslims, none of whom look like arabs.


Agree to profiling now but also agree that they know this and will recuit from non muslim and people that dont look arab.
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#12 Postby gtalum » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:08 pm

feederband wrote:I don't remember occupying anyone's land on 9/11....


The stated reason for 9/11 was twofold: our military presence in Saudi Arabia (unwanted by the people of Saudi Arabia) and our support of Israel's occupation of the Gaza Strip and teh West Bank.
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#13 Postby wxcrazytwo » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:19 pm

Plus the terrorist on those planes where not occupiers. I will stop here, as I see we are treading on dangerous waters. THANK YOU
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#14 Postby sunny » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:20 pm

wxcrazytwo wrote:Plus the terrorist on those planes where not occupiers. I will stop here, as I see we are treading on dangerous waters. THANK YOU


TERRORIST - key word there.
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#15 Postby feederband » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:21 pm

wxcrazytwo wrote:Plus the terrorist on those planes where not occupiers. I will stop here, as I see we are treading on dangerous waters. THANK YOU


We should have a dangerous waters forum.... :wink:
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#16 Postby wxcrazytwo » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:23 pm

sunny wrote:
wxcrazytwo wrote:Plus the terrorist on those planes where not occupiers. I will stop here, as I see we are treading on dangerous waters. THANK YOU


TERRORIST - key word there.


Exactly sunny terrorist not occupiers... :wink:
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#17 Postby sunny » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:24 pm

wxcrazytwo wrote:
sunny wrote:
wxcrazytwo wrote:Plus the terrorist on those planes where not occupiers. I will stop here, as I see we are treading on dangerous waters. THANK YOU


TERRORIST - key word there.


Exactly sunny terrorist not occupiers... :wink:


Except they drove planes into the heart of New York killing how many? Let's not forget that crazy. They brought it here TO US. I don't know about you - but I for one will never forget.
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#18 Postby OtherHD » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:39 pm

So, how is one going to differentiate between male muslim extremists, and just regular male muslms?
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#19 Postby gtalum » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:42 pm

OtherHD wrote:So, how is one going to differentiate between male muslim extremists, and just regular male muslms?


And there lies another major problem with profiling.
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#20 Postby GalvestonDuck » Thu Aug 18, 2005 3:42 pm

OtherHD wrote:So, how is one going to differentiate between male muslim extremists, and just regular male muslms?


By profiling them and screening them.

"Okay, you're safe...go ahead and board. Um...you? Nope, you need to come with us...and leave the bag."
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