LAPD beating

#1 Postby **Cookiely** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 1:56 pm

As far as I'm concerned its a waste of man hours for the FBI to investigate. The man is clearly resisting while they are trying to handcuff him. Where is the beating? It looks like the officer is hitting his upper arm so that he can get the handcuffs on. Yes, the police has his knee near his throat, but I don't hear any problems with him talking so I assume he is getting adequate intake of air. You run from the police then you take your lumps and don't complain. Violation of his civil rights - Give me a break!
http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/arti ... article.do

GalvestonDuck · #2 Postby **GalvestonDuck** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:04 pm

I don't get why the FBI is involved either. The article states that the department had already begun its own investigation of the arrest and the officers are on administrative duty.

However, I do agree with what the article says that the video shows -- the man is being punched in the face, not the arm. But, hey, they're law enforcement.

gtalum · #3 Postby **gtalum** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 2:49 pm

It's always hard to tell what happened in these cases from a single clip of amateur videotape. I'm sure the FBI's involvement is purely procedural as a "CYA" measure so that nobody can claim the incident was swept under the rug.

nholley · #4 Postby **nholley** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:21 pm

To me it looks like they were punching him when they shouldn;t have been, but on the flip side he was considered in the top 10% most dangerous so probably deserved a good kicking.

Lindaloo · #5 Postby **Lindaloo** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 3:31 pm

They are not punching him in the face. He was punching his hand to get him to put it down. Unless you are in cops shoes, do not judge. The other officer was obviously on the radio for back up.

j · #6 Postby j » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:20 pm

Lindaloo wrote:They are not punching him in the face. He was punching his hand to get him to put it down. Unless you are in cops shoes, do not judge. The other officer was obviously on the radio for back up.

I'm with you Linda. Make it impossible for Police to do their job, and someday when you need them, they WON'T be able to help you.

Damn fools

j · #7 Postby j » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:26 pm

I'll take this a step further. I'd like to see a new policy for police. One warning then you hit them with the tazer. Period! The police have way too dangerous a job to have to risk death because the criminals are considered the victims.

#8 Postby **george_r_1961** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:41 pm

If you resist arrest the police can and should use any means needed to ensure compliance. Period. I have no sympathy for someone who fights the police then gets their a$$ kicked.

GalvestonDuck · #9 Postby **GalvestonDuck** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 4:42 pm

I still say it looks like he's getting punched in the face. First of all, you can see the officer's fist go down inside his (the officer's) thigh along the leg that is pinning the suspect down by the throat. Secondly, the guy looks a bit bloody. But like I said, they're law enforcement. Gotta do what they gotta do. Sounds like the guy was a handful and could have been worse if they didn't restrain him.

Lindaloo · #10 Postby **Lindaloo** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:07 pm

No he is not hitting him in the face. He is hitting the mans fist. I have looked and looked for blood, do not see any.

The man is not even concerned with that. He is telling them he can't breathe while continuing to resist. :roll:

GalvestonDuck · #11 Postby **GalvestonDuck** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 5:31 pm

Well, darn it...how do you post a screen cap on here? I watched the video and froze it at one point where it looks like he was hit in the face. Again, I'll emphasize "looks like." I have a screen capture of it, but I'm not sure how to save it as an image so I can post it.

Doesn't matter to me where they were hitting him. They were justified.

Lindaloo · #12 Postby **Lindaloo** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:18 pm

GalvestonDuck wrote:Well, darn it...how do you post a screen cap on here? I watched the video and froze it at one point where it looks like he was hit in the face. Again, I'll emphasize "looks like." I have a screen capture of it, but I'm not sure how to save it as an image so I can post it.

Doesn't matter to me where they were hitting him. They were justified.

((HUGS))

HEAR YE HEAR YE! Our first time to disagree Duckie. lol.

Stratosphere747 · #13 Postby **Stratosphere747** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:31 pm

He is clearly being hit in the face. It is quite obvious...

The officers admit to it -- Taken from the same article.

"The officer and his partner described repeated blows to the suspect's face in their written arrest report, as well as efforts by the man to resist and their concern that the man might grab one of their guns, according to the document obtained by the media."

The suspect IMO must have done something prior to the events on the video to cause the officers reasons to be concerned, hence I have no problem with the use of force.

#14 Postby **brunota2003** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:34 pm

Ok...that was not violent...IMHO of course, the guy cant breathe? if he couldnt breathe, he wouldnt be able to say "I cant breathe" it did seem like the guy was being hit in the face (and even the news report stated the officers wrote in their report they hit him in the face several times) however, if you listen, you can hear one of the officers saying "Let go of me"...it appeared the blows were only hard enough to make the suspect let go of whatever he was holding/trying to hold...

Meso · #15 Postby **Meso** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 6:56 pm

I agree that is clearly hits to the face (At least one clear one).And it can take a lot more than that to cause blood (I've seen bricks to the face with no blood).Tazer is a lot more civilized than this...

Opal storm · #16 Postby **Opal storm** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:26 pm

Why doesn't the video show the whole thing from the time the police arrived on the scene?Sounds like the person that posted this on YouTube was trying to make the cops look like the bad guys by posting a pathetic 15 second clip.He was obviously resisting arrest and the police were concerned about him grabbing their guns,I think they were just using necessary force.

Lindaloo · #17 Postby **Lindaloo** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 8:56 pm

Opal storm wrote:Why doesn't the video show the whole thing from the time the police arrived on the scene?Sounds like the person that posted this on YouTube was trying to make the cops look like the bad guys by posting a pathetic 15 second clip.He was obviously resisting arrest and the police were concerned about him grabbing their guns,I think they were just using necessary force.

BINGO! Well said.

GalvestonDuck · #18 Postby **GalvestonDuck** » Fri Nov 10, 2006 9:25 pm

Lindaloo wrote: ((HUGS))

HEAR YE HEAR YE! Our first time to disagree Duckie. lol.

Shhhh...

maybe they won't notice. :wink:

((((HUGS))))

BUD · #19 Postby **BUD** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 1:43 pm

It really does not matter they will probadly lose there jobs once the NAACP gets there hands on this.I listen to the radio and alot of people want there heads on a plate!!!

Lindaloo · #20 Postby **Lindaloo** » Sat Nov 11, 2006 5:22 pm

Why would the NAACP care? This guy was white.

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