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FDA: Cloned livestock is safe to eat

#1 Postby Aquawind » Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:36 pm

This is kinda freaking me out.. Those big juicey medium-rare steaks will never be the same. I wish they did have a label.

http://www.cnn.com/2006/HEALTH/12/28/cl ... index.html
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#2 Postby angelwing » Thu Dec 28, 2006 7:26 pm

No label?? Then the heck with eating meat then, I don't wanna eat something fake, I'd rather grow my own veggies and eat that, sheesh
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#3 Postby southerngale » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:23 pm

I agree, Paul. I don't care what the FDA thinks (at this time). I think we have a right to know.
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#4 Postby Brent » Thu Dec 28, 2006 9:32 pm

I find it freaky too.

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#5 Postby GalvestonDuck » Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:16 pm

You mean I could find myself eating the same steak over and over and over again?

Heck, it might as well be groundhog then.
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#6 Postby vbhoutex » Thu Dec 28, 2006 11:27 pm

It isn't fake. It is an exact duplicate of the original. I won't even get into the religious overtones I've heard about on this.
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#7 Postby Regit » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:06 am

Cloned food isn't going to be in our food system any time soon. It's too expensive to make. Also, the conditions cloned animals face are so horrible that animal rights groups would (rightfully) launch a full scale attack on the companies producing it.
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#8 Postby Coredesat » Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:16 am

Indeed, I wouldn't worry about seeing this any time soon. It just wouldn't be profitable for all the reasons already mentioned.
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#9 Postby Johno8080 » Fri Dec 29, 2006 4:01 am

Can someone tell me what it actually is! is it like a cow thats been genetically cloned? does it come out of another cow as in born??

sounds ok to me! but im assuming its just genetics copied........i would be more worried about what there using for chicken in all those chinese buffets you guyes have over there :eek: :roll:
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#10 Postby Yarrah » Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:05 pm

I'm not a big fan of cloned food and I've heard about researches with a very different conclusion. Fortunately, if an ingredient of a product is GM, one can easily see it in the list of ingredients here.

Further more, I'm afraid that the rise of GM livestock will just worsen the conditions of animals. There's a chance that these animals will only be seen as an industrial product which can be copied and produced on a large scale. The fact that this is actually an animal won't be important anymore.

I just heard a spokesperson of the FDA talk about the 'service of animals to mankind' and this kinda confirms my fears about this whole GM thing.
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#11 Postby Regit » Fri Dec 29, 2006 12:49 pm

Yarrah wrote:I'm not a big fan of cloned food and I've heard about researches with a very different conclusion. Fortunately, if an ingredient of a product is GM, one can easily see it in the list of ingredients here.

Further more, I'm afraid that the rise of GM livestock will just worsen the conditions of animals. There's a chance that these animals will only be seen as an industrial product which can be copied and produced on a large scale. The fact that this is actually an animal won't be important anymore.

I just heard a spokesperson of the FDA talk about the 'service of animals to mankind' and this kinda confirms my fears about this whole GM thing.


Well, animals aren't really treated much better than that as it is now

(Squeamish people should stop reading here)

In the US, cows are supposed to be killed by a strike to the head, however many survive that and actually die while being skinned.

Somehow, veal and foie gras are still legal in most of the United States (as well as most of the world). God forbid people not have one more item to shove into themselves at the speed of sound.

Foie gras is made by not allowing ducks to move and force feeding far more than they should eat in order to ruin their liver. This makes the liver larger and more tender.

Veal is made by strapping the cows down from birth so that their muscles don't develop. The only time the calf is unstrapped is to kill it.

So do you really think these people care about the treatment of the animals?
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#12 Postby Yarrah » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:19 pm

Regit wrote:So do you really think these people care about the treatment of the animals?

No, I've lost my confidence in the meat industry a long time ago. It's one of the many reason why I've become a vegetarian. The only reason why they're developing GM livestock is to make more profit and to produce more, not because they want to improve the living standard of the animals even if they say that is one of their main goals.

Foie gras is made by not allowing ducks to move and force feeding far more than they should eat in order to ruin their liver. This makes the liver larger and more tender

Usually done by inserting a feeding pipe into their mouth and pumping food in their stomach at regular intervals.

I could present a lot more examples of how livestock is treated, because it seems there's hardly any difference between our two countries on this topic.
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#13 Postby HollynLA » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:33 pm

Just curious, but have any of you ever seen an animal killed in the wild........... the natural way? It's not a pretty sight to see, very grusome, but it's the way the food chain in nature works.

Also, have any of you ever considered hunting your own food instead of depending on the FDA and grocery stores to prepare it for you in neatly packed containers?
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#14 Postby x-y-no » Fri Dec 29, 2006 1:51 pm

Don't know what the big deal is ...

A clone is just a twin born at a later date. No reason meat from a cloned animal should be any different than what's already sold as food.
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#15 Postby Regit » Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:02 pm

HollynLA wrote:Just curious, but have any of you ever seen an animal killed in the wild........... the natural way? It's not a pretty sight to see, very grusome, but it's the way the food chain in nature works.


Humans left the state of nature a long time ago. Nature has no bearing on basic human compassion.

Even if it did, when was the last time you saw a cheetah strap down its prey as a baby so that it never moves, then come back and kill it a few weeks later?



Also, have any of you ever considered hunting your own food instead of depending on the FDA and grocery stores to prepare it for you in neatly packed containers?


Well I don't eat a whole lot of meat. I'm not going to sit in ten degree weather and kill a deer to eat a quarter pound of meat.
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#16 Postby MiamiensisWx » Fri Dec 29, 2006 2:07 pm

I'm more concerned about the liability issues of safety of producing cloned livestock for meat produce and how the cloned meat produce is managed for cleanliness. I would personally like to see more conclusive and detailed studies on this before it is approved. It all depends on safety, and it also lies on how the animals are managed and treated in some arenas.
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#17 Postby JQ Public » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:35 pm

I'll eat it. I don't see anything wrong with the genetically engineered meats. Everyone finds it "freaky" but they don't really say why.
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#18 Postby angelwing » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:36 pm

vbhoutex wrote:It isn't fake. It is an exact duplicate of the original. I won't even get into the religious overtones I've heard about on this.


Neither will I but I won't eat it for that reason
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#19 Postby Brent » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:38 pm

JQ Public wrote:I'll eat it. I don't see anything wrong with the genetically engineered meats. Everyone finds it "freaky" but they don't really say why.


I'm not sure why I find it freaky either. :roll: :lol:

I'm already over it I think. I eat meat a lot, and I am not going to stop(not that I could stop if I wanted).
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#20 Postby GalvestonDuck » Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:44 pm

So, who raises cloned livestock? Scientists or farmers?
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