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Re: Hurricane FELIX:Caribbean-Discussions & Imagery 8 PM pag 45

#1001 Postby Extremecane » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:05 pm

Wow amazon storm:


----- Current Analysis -----
Date : 03 SEP 2007 Time : 001500 UTC
Lat : 13:49:47 N Lon : 73:02:42 W

CI# /Pressure/ Vmax
7.1 / 918.0mb/143.0kt

Latitude bias adjustment to MSLP : +0.0mb

Estimated radius of max. wind based on IR : 17.6km

6hr-Avg T# 3hr-Avg T# Adj T# Raw T#
7.1 7.1 7.1 7.1

Eye Temp : +19.3C Cloud Region Temp : -73.7C
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Re: Hurricane FELIX:Caribbean-Discussions & Imagery 8 PM pag 45

#1002 Postby Ptarmigan » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:05 pm

Almost every Felix going back to 1989 was a major hurricane with the exception of Felix of 1989 was a major hurricane.
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#1003 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:09 pm

Image

EXTREMELY IMPRESSIVE.
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#1004 Postby jhamps10 » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:09 pm

Image

Wow, I can not believe how this red band is expanding.
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#1005 Postby weatherman21 » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:10 pm

Water Vapor Satellite at 0:45Z

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#1006 Postby GeneratorPower » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:12 pm

It's going annular, no doubt. Look at the outer feeder bands fading, and the bright red center ring looking like a PERFECT donut.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-avn.html
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#1007 Postby GeneratorPower » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:14 pm

00:15Z image shows a DONUT with feeder bands going away. This is no joke. This fits the exact definition of annular as put out in the NOAA literature.

JOHN A. KNAFF AND JAMES P. KOSSIN defined annular in the following document. This fits exactly.

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~kossin/articl ... arhurr.pdf

:uarrow: ANNULAR
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#1008 Postby Duddy » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:16 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:00:15Z image shows a DONUT with feeder bands going away. This is no joke. This fits the exact definition of annular as put out in the NOAA literature.

JOHN A. KNAFF AND JAMES P. KOSSIN defined annular in the following document. This fits exactly.

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~kossin/articl ... arhurr.pdf

:uarrow: ANNULAR


Yep, perfect fit. :eek:
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#1009 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:17 pm

This is NOT annular... not even close. Rainbands are quite visible on the IR... those outer abnds are a part of the circulation as seen by microwave imagery.

In fact, I expect an EWRC to occur tomorrow
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#1010 Postby LAwxrgal » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:17 pm

Ptarmigan wrote:Almost every Felix going back to 1989 was a major hurricane with the exception of Felix of 1989 was a major hurricane.


Maybe Felix is trying to get himself retired this time.
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#1011 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:18 pm

miamicanes177 wrote:No way winds are only 165mph in my opinion. I would go with 185mph and if they can find a crew that is willing to take a risk and fly into it tonight I would bet 200mph.



Let's not get ahead of ourselves folks...I think at the MOST, this will top out at around 180, possible 185 mph, but that should be about it....This isn't "the day after tomorrow" now...We've got to tamper our amazment with a degree of realism...
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#1012 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:18 pm

LAwxrgal wrote:
Ptarmigan wrote:Almost every Felix going back to 1989 was a major hurricane with the exception of Felix of 1989 was a major hurricane.


Maybe Felix is trying to get himself retired this time.


Most likely. This "Félix" will become the first of its name to make landfall.
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#1013 Postby CrazyC83 » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:19 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:This is NOT annular... not even close. Rainbands are quite visible on the IR... those outer abnds are a part of the circulation as seen by microwave imagery.

In fact, I expect an EWRC to occur tomorrow


I agree. It is nowhere near annular.
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#1014 Postby fasterdisaster » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:20 pm

This is, IMO, the fourth best hurricane on satellite I've ever seen(behind only Katrina, Wilma, and Isabel).
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#1015 Postby GeneratorPower » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:21 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:This is NOT annular... not even close. Rainbands are quite visible on the IR... those outer abnds are a part of the circulation as seen by microwave imagery.

In fact, I expect an EWRC to occur tomorrow


I'm going on the record as officially disagreeing. The feeder bands are evaporating on the last two (2) IR frames, and the donut is there. I read that annular document completely and thoroughly. If this isn't going annular, that document needs updating.

EDIT: You're free to disagree in my book, no hard feelings here.
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#1016 Postby Air Force Met » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:21 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:00:15Z image shows a DONUT with feeder bands going away. This is no joke. This fits the exact definition of annular as put out in the NOAA literature.

JOHN A. KNAFF AND JAMES P. KOSSIN defined annular in the following document. This fits exactly.

http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~kossin/articl ... arhurr.pdf

:uarrow: ANNULAR


Not really. There is no large eye which is the number one characteristic of an annular cane...

This is not an annular hurricane. Not even close.
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#1017 Postby theworld » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:22 pm

GeneratorPower wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:This is NOT annular... not even close. Rainbands are quite visible on the IR... those outer abnds are a part of the circulation as seen by microwave imagery.

In fact, I expect an EWRC to occur tomorrow


I'm going on the record as officially disagreeing. The feeder bands are evaporating on the last two (2) IR frames, and the donut is there. I read that annular document completely and thoroughly. If this isn't going annular, that document needs updating.


anything is possible. i've learned never to say never.
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#1018 Postby Cryomaniac » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:23 pm

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miamicanes177 wrote:No way winds are only 165mph in my opinion. I would go with 185mph and if they can find a crew that is willing to take a risk and fly into it tonight I would bet 200mph.



Let's not get ahead of ourselves folks...I think at the MOST, this will top out at around 180, possible 185 mph, but that should be about it....This isn't "the day after tomorrow" now...We've got to tamper our amazment with a degree of realism...


200mph winds are by no means impossible. Not at all likely, but it's not impossible.
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#1019 Postby fasterdisaster » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:23 pm

I'm sorry, but there is NO WAY this is annular, and it won't be in at least the immediate future(12 to 24 hours).

The eye is MUCH too small
Feeder bands are far too persistent
While Felix is compact, it is NOT tight enough to be annular.

Even Katrina, which I believe was barely annular, was closer to the definition than this.
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#1020 Postby JtSmarts » Sun Sep 02, 2007 8:25 pm

fasterdisaster wrote:This is, IMO, the fourth best hurricane on satellite I've ever seen(behind only Katrina, Wilma, and Isabel).


I agree for the most part although I think I would possibly include Mitch and/or Rita. Rita looked similar to Felix at her peak in terms of deep convection, except she had a larger eye.
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