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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run,Texas Landfall

#1381 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:04 pm

not sure if anyone saw the 06z HWRF

pressure 920MB almost over PR

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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run,Texas Landfall

#1382 Postby windstorm99 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:07 pm

No ridge there...
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Re: Tropical Storm Dean (pg.28) - Discussions, Analysis and Sats

#1383 Postby ekal » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:07 pm

HUC wrote:The things are slowly,but surely in place for a hurricane to impact the east carribean...and i'am watching carefully this cyclone,as i do for each system in this location with the present track,in this time of the year..
Wait and see,and do prepared(my hurricane supplies are always ready ,because in 50 years i saw so much!!!!!)
Will keep you informed of the weather right there,if condition required...Can someone explain me carefully,because i'am not of english languge, how to send images(the Guadeloupe radar).....


Hi Huc!

1) When you have an image that you want to post, right click on the image, and then left click on "properties" in the menu.

2) You will see a URL in the address line of the window that opens. Highlight the complete URL with your mouse, and then copy it (right click on the highlighted text, then copy).

3) When you post a reply, click the button that says "Img," located above the message window. You will then see two boxes. To post the image, just paste the URL between them.

Let me know if that works. Best to you as you make your preparations, and hopefully, they are not needed in the end.
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#1384 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:07 pm

Any bets on where 18z takes it?
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#1385 Postby Sjones » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:08 pm

tgenius wrote:
KFDM Meteorologist wrote:This model will jump from place to place through Friday/Saturday.


The problem is that you will have all the media (read:news), from Texas to FL in hysteria, as its the first real "threat" of the season, assuming TD5 to be/Erin doesn't take the headlines first!



The problem is that you (tgenius) are not a meterologist. :lol: Anyway that's off topic, back on with the show
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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run,Texas Landfall

#1386 Postby windstorm99 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:13 pm

12z CMC changes its tune a bit and now it brings Dean on a more WNW to NW track until the end of the run, then begins to bend it west.
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#1387 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:13 pm

Ridging shows up pretty well at 700mb

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... 0_204l.gif

at 500, you can see a trough off the US East Coast (assumption being there is a ridge underneath there that probably extends to Spain).

It also shows up at 850mb (well into the Southeast U.S. and A which is probably why it wants to take it up to Minnesota/Wisconsin):

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... v_204l.gif

Doesn't show up at 200, 300 or 250mb (possibly an ULL involved in the deeper ridge):

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... 0_204l.gif

Waiting game is on.

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#1388 Postby destruction92 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:15 pm

Sjones wrote:
tgenius wrote:
KFDM Meteorologist wrote:This model will jump from place to place through Friday/Saturday.


The problem is that you will have all the media (read:news), from Texas to FL in hysteria, as its the first real "threat" of the season, assuming TD5 to be/Erin doesn't take the headlines first!



The problem is that you (tgenius) are not a meterologist. :lol: Anyway that's off topic, back on with the show


The problem is that this is a show. Whenever the GFS hints at a Texas landfall, people start crediting it...but then when GFS predicts Dean out to sea or skirting NC, then most of the people here say that it is bogus.

Funny how people stop ranting at the GFS when it conveniently changes its track back to Texas (only to be followed thereafter by another major shift and criticism re-emerging).

The GFS has not trended anywhere yet except a swath from Brownsville to the eastern Atlantic Ocean. I am tired of flip-floppers, both people and models.

Once there is some consistency and accurate initialization of speed and location, then I am willing to give more credence to the GFS 100+ hours ahead.
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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run is being posted

#1389 Postby jasons2k » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:16 pm

destruction92 wrote:
"Massive ridge"? Please inform me where you see a massive ridge in NOAA's Surface Analysis map? http://www.opc.ncep.noaa.gov/UA.shtml


Dude, you're looking at the wrong layers. You won't see it on that map.

Check out the upper ridge still over the SW Atlantic & SE US. This is why Dean won't be charging up the EC like in yesterday's runs:

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... _168.shtml

You have been informed :wink:
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#1390 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:17 pm

>>The visible looks ominous... there's no going back now, this is on it's way to being our first hurricane.

It has that Pacific look to it with the convection mostly with the southern part of the system and also looks quite a bit like Sepat did a day or two ago IMHO.

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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run,Texas Landfall

#1391 Postby windstorm99 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:17 pm

12z CMC has been posted when possible make note on the thread.
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Re: T Storm Dean - Global Models=12z GFS run,Texas Landfall

#1392 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:18 pm

In all the criticism of the GFS on it's varied solutions long range no one is mentioning that for the last 6 runs it has been very consistant in forecasting a hit on the northern leewards with just a trend slightly to the left over the last few runs.
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#1393 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:18 pm

Well I'd say the average landfall location now for the GFS is FL/GA border. :double:
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#1394 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:21 pm

Canadian looks interesting and mirrors the WPAC. It's bringing an elongated N-S ridge down from Canada to merge up with the Bermuda High. = Westward bound.

>>The problem is that this is a show. Whenever the GFS hints at a Texas landfall, people start crediting it...but then when GFS predicts Dean out to sea or skirting NC, then most of the people here say that it is bogus.

I say that all the time. I coined the term STATECASTING. I think there should be a sub-sub forum where people can argue between Texas and North Carolina and Texas and Florida. People always jump on the runs that impact them. It's a weather forum phenominon not exclusive to Storm2k. In fact, if I was a moderator, it would be open to anyone, but those who I thought were guilty, I'd temporarily ban them to fight out model runs in that particular area until things were more conclusive. That way people could keep score on the worst offenders and determine if they had any real credibility.

:D

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#1395 Postby Derek Ortt » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:21 pm

Dean looks great on vis

But is IR was all we had, this thing would not even be classified as a depression. Its really just holding its own as a weak TS at the moment
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#1396 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:21 pm

Well, it is becoming more ominous that between the tropical model consensus and now more and more of the globals that a trip into the Carib. is becoming more likely and an Atlantic Fish is becoming less likely.
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#1397 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:23 pm

The problem is that you will have all the media (read:news), from Texas to FL in hysteria, as its the first real "threat" of the season, assuming TD5 to be/Erin doesn't take the headlines first![/quote]


The problem is that you (tgenius) are not a meterologist. :lol: Anyway that's off topic, back on with the show[/quote]

There can be no such thing as consistancy in a ten day model forecast.

The problem is that this is a show. Whenever the GFS hints at a Texas landfall, people start crediting it...but then when GFS predicts Dean out to sea or skirting NC, then most of the people here say that it is bogus.

Funny how people stop ranting at the GFS when it conveniently changes its track back to Texas (only to be followed thereafter by another major shift and criticism re-emerging).

The GFS has not trended anywhere yet except a swath from Brownsville to the eastern Atlantic Ocean. I am tired of flip-floppers, both people and models.

Once there is some consistency and accurate initialization of speed and location, then I am willing to give more credence to the GFS 100+ hours ahead.[/quote]
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#1398 Postby Dean4Storms » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:24 pm

Steve wrote:Canadian looks interesting and mirrors the WPAC. It's bringing an elongated N-S ridge down from Canada to merge up with the Bermuda High. = Westward bound.

>>The problem is that this is a show. Whenever the GFS hints at a Texas landfall, people start crediting it...but then when GFS predicts Dean out to sea or skirting NC, then most of the people here say that it is bogus.

I say that all the time. I coined the term STATECASTING. I think there should be a sub-sub forum where people can argue between Texas and North Carolina and Texas and Florida. People always jump on the runs that impact them. It's a weather forum phenominon not exclusive to Storm2k. In fact, if I was a moderator, it would be open to anyone, but those who I thought were guilty, I'd temporarily ban them to fight out model runs in that particular area until things were more conclusive. That way people could keep score on the worst offenders and determine if they had any real credibility.

:D

Steve


This is one Floridian who hopes it goes out to sea or to Texas or anywhere else but here. I've already had to replace my homeowners insurance because AllState bailed.
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#1399 Postby Steve » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:26 pm

>>This is one Floridian who hopes it goes out to sea or to Texas or anywhere else but here. I've already had to replace my homeowners insurance because AllState bailed.

Indeed. I lost my house, all my stuff and I'm still couch surfing at my sister's house in the bayou waiting for my exwife to rebuild our house and buy me out (probably December at the earliest). Let 'em have it.

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#1400 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Tue Aug 14, 2007 12:26 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:
Steve wrote:Canadian looks interesting and mirrors the WPAC. It's bringing an elongated N-S ridge down from Canada to merge up with the Bermuda High. = Westward bound.

>>The problem is that this is a show. Whenever the GFS hints at a Texas landfall, people start crediting it...but then when GFS predicts Dean out to sea or skirting NC, then most of the people here say that it is bogus.

I say that all the time. I coined the term STATECASTING. I think there should be a sub-sub forum where people can argue between Texas and North Carolina and Texas and Florida. People always jump on the runs that impact them. It's a weather forum phenominon not exclusive to Storm2k. In fact, if I was a moderator, it would be open to anyone, but those who I thought were guilty, I'd temporarily ban them to fight out model runs in that particular area until things were more conclusive. That way people could keep score on the worst offenders and determine if they had any real credibility.

:D

Steve


This is one Floridian who hopes it goes out to sea or to Texas or anywhere else but here. I've already had to replace my homeowners insurance because AllState bailed.


Tell me about it..FL's Economy is in Horrible shape right now and this would not help...Not looking for any thing to do with dean here...
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