Ex-Ingrid north of Leewards
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Re: Tropical wave (ex-Ingrid) north of Leewards
When the remnants of a tropical cyclone regenerate within a basin, the name is retained. Doesn't matter whether the circulation opens up into a wave or not.
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x-y-no wrote:CrazyC83 wrote:I believe if this regenerates (not expected at this point), it remains Ingrid. Correct?
No ... since it has opened up into a wave, any new surface circulation would be a different entity.
That is only if it changes basins. It would be Ingrid if its remnants redevelop.
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x-y-no wrote:CrazyC83 wrote:I believe if this regenerates (not expected at this point), it remains Ingrid. Correct?
No ... since it has opened up into a wave, any new surface circulation would be a different entity.
Actually it would still be Ingrid as long as they can identify the same sfc feature. Opening up into a wave has nothing to do with it. There are numerous examples systems that have lost their closed circulations...opened to a wave...and then closed off again...which retain the same name/designation. It is only when they can not say that the sfc feature is the same do they (the NHC) rename it something else (i.e. with Katrina). Ivan was an example of this, so is Mitch in '98.
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chadtm80 wrote:Ya, I was just going to say.. Ivan opened up into a ripple lol
Yeah...there was a fight in the NHC over that one.
Also...in 2001 Chantal degenerated to an open wave but closed back off again a day later in the eastern Car...
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Re: Tropical wave (ex-Ingrid) north of Leewards
Maybe dropped this off models and floaters a bit too soon.
Does have a spin, about (let's see, 1/2 distrance between 17.5 and 20 is what, 18.75N by 61W? - boy do I miss that floater with 1degree lat/lons!!!!!!!!) Convection is some distance to the SE.
Does have a spin, about (let's see, 1/2 distrance between 17.5 and 20 is what, 18.75N by 61W? - boy do I miss that floater with 1degree lat/lons!!!!!!!!) Convection is some distance to the SE.
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Re: Tropical wave (ex-Ingrid) north of Leewards
bvigal wrote:Maybe dropped this off models and floaters a bit too soon.
Does have a spin, about (let's see, 1/2 distrance between 17.5 and 20 is what, 18.75N by 61W? - boy do I miss that floater with 1degree lat/lons!!!!!!!!) Convection is some distance to the SE.
They runned models on ex Ingrid
Go to link and see the 18:00 UTC update of position.
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Re: Tropical wave (ex-Ingrid) north of Leewards
nrl says it is the final warning to be issued when you go to text for Ingrid -
http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_ho ... RODUCT=vis
SUBJ: TROPICAL DEPRESSION INGRID (08L) WARNING NR 020
WTNT01 KNGU 170901Z
1. TROPICAL DEPRESSION INGRID (08L) WARNING NR 020
01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN ATLANTIC
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
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WARNING POSITION:
170600Z --- NEAR 17.4N 59.7W
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 280 DEGREES AT 08 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 060 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 025 KT, GUSTS 035 KT
REPEAT POSIT: 17.4N 59.7W
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
171800Z --- 17.8N 61.1W
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 025 KT, GUSTS 035 KT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 295 DEG/ 06 KTS
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24 HRS, VALID AT:
180600Z --- 18.3N 62.3W
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 020 KT, GUSTS 030 KT
DISSIPATING AS A SIGNIFICANT TROPICAL CYCLONE OVER WATER
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REMARKS:
170900Z POSITION NEAR 17.5N 60.0W OR APPROX 496.3NM E OF SANTO
DOMINGO. THERE ARE NO 12FT SEAS.
THIS IS THE FINAL WARNING ON THIS SYSTEM BY THE NAVAL
METEOROLOGY AND OCEANOGRAPHY CENTER (NAVMETOCCEN). THE SYS-
TEM WILL BE CLOSELY MONITORED FOR SIGNS OF REGENERATION.//
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Sat_Home East_Pacific&WestCoast Global CONUS ModelOver RainRate CloudTops Training
TropCyclones NexSat ColorComposite SSMI-Comp2 Tropics CloudWinds ScattWinds CloudClass
http://www.nrlmry.navy.mil/tc-bin/tc_ho ... RODUCT=vis
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Re: Tropical wave (ex-Ingrid) north of Leewards
Artist,they have the final warning at 9:00z this morning.However,even if they dont issue any more warnings,they internally do model runs that we dont see,such as this afternoons 18:00 UTC run with position at 18.6n-60.8w.
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Re: Tropical wave (ex-Ingrid) north of Leewards
Hey folks -- yes Ingrid certainly has died off here over the past 24 hours
she looks to be trying to make yet another comeback, albeit small today -- nice spin and only conditions will get better tonight and tomorrow (UL conditions)
she looks to be trying to make yet another comeback, albeit small today -- nice spin and only conditions will get better tonight and tomorrow (UL conditions)
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Re: Tropical wave (ex-Ingrid) north of Leewards
Luis, I don't see 18z position of former Ingrid on NRL site. Where do I click? Graphic and text are all advisory 20 from 9z this morning? Are you referring to the text on the photos? Yes, I see that. Is it from models?
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Re: Tropical wave (ex-Ingrid) north of Leewards
bvigal wrote:Luis, I don't see 18z position of former Ingrid on NRL site. Where do I click? Graphic and text are all advisory 20 from 9z this morning?
Put mouse on image and the position will show up.
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Re: Tropical wave (ex-Ingrid) north of Leewards
LOL, yes thanks! Is there any place to see the actual model runs?
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Re: Tropical wave (ex-Ingrid) north of Leewards
bvigal wrote:LOL, yes thanks! Is there any place to see the actual model runs?
No,that run was made internally and not made public.
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Re: Tropical wave (ex-Ingrid) north of Leewards
Antigua 4pm - 1009.1mb, wind 300degrees at 9kt. Low is north of Antigua.
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Ingrid looks to be in a state of regeneration. Convection increasing.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-avn.html
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/watl/loop-avn.html
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