Tropical Storm GABRIELLE (ATL): Global & BAM Models

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Re: Invest 99L: Global & BAM Models

#201 Postby Emmett_Brown » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:19 am

I think what we should take from the lastest model runs is two things:

1. The ridge appears to be stronger in the last several runs. The models have therefore trended to the west.

2. There is still poor agreement, and this trend may not be over.

Therefore, a Georgia storm is not out of the realm of possibility in my opinion. Granted, the models did not initialize the system as far east as it is, but the overall trend to the left could be important to GA, and maybe even N FL if it holds.
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Re: Invest 99L: Global & BAM Models

#202 Postby mitchell » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:48 am

I'm scratching my head trying to figure out what all of the dates and times mean in the model output graphic below??

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#203 Postby Meso » Wed Sep 05, 2007 9:58 am

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12z NAM for what it's worth.
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Re: Invest 99L: Global & BAM Models

#204 Postby chris_fit » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:08 am

Here are the latest models, spaghetti style...

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IMO, again In My Unprofessional Opinion, this is being way over-hyped by everyone! I do not think this is even a TD, YET. The LLC is completely exposed and it is being sheared to pieces. Everyone is reading the models like a Bible. Remember with Felix and Dean they did not forecast such intensification, but yet it happened. I believe in this case that the models ARE predicting such intensification, but it will NOT happen. That is all :grrr:
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#205 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:14 am

How is this being over hyped? it is a shoe-in. All data suggests this and conditions are becoming much more favorable for development

Just wait 24-36 hours. This as not supposed to undergo RI today anyways. Be patient!
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Re: Invest 99L: Global & BAM Models

#206 Postby BigA » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:18 am

Derek Ortt wrote:How is this being over hyped? it is a shoe-in. All data suggests this and conditions are becoming much more favorable for development

Just wait 24-36 hours. This as not supposed to undergo RI today anyways. Be patient!


Derek/Mr. Ortt: I greatly respect you, and honestly believe that your prediction is correct, so I ask this truly out of curiosity and desire to learn rather than criticism, but what environmental factors or changes cause you and your colleagues to believe that conditions are becoming/ will become more favorable? I recall that Wxman57 said something similar earlier this morning.

Thank you much.
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Re: Invest 99L: Global & BAM Models

#207 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:30 am

12z GFs starting to roll

Here we go with the 12z GFS.
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Re: Invest 99L: Global & BAM Models=12z GFS rolling in

#208 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:34 am

12 hours

This run starts almost where the low is in reallity.
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#209 Postby Derek Ortt » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:38 am

that the winds are backing from SW at the UL to southerly, first signs that the expected UH will develop over this system
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Re: Invest 99L: Global & BAM Models=12z GFS rolling in

#210 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:38 am

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#211 Postby Meso » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:40 am

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CMC @ 24 Hours

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CMC @ 48 Hours
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#212 Postby BigA » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:41 am

Derek Ortt wrote:that the winds are backing from SW at the UL to southerly, first signs that the expected UH will develop over this system


Thank you!
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Re: Invest 99L: Global & BAM Models=12z GFS,CMC rolling in

#213 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:43 am

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Re: Invest 99L: Global & BAM Models=12z GFS,CMC rolling in

#214 Postby LarryWx » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:47 am

The 12Z GFS' initialization was good with respect to longitude. As of the 54 hour map, It has the low a bit further NW vs. both the 6Z run and 0Z run.
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Re: Invest 99L: Global & BAM Models=12z GFS,CMC rolling in

#215 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:47 am

54 hours

Moving NW.
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Re: Invest 99L: Global & BAM Models=12z GFS,CMC rolling in

#216 Postby BigA » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:50 am

Looks like it deepened between the 42 and 54 hour time frame. Maybe this is when shear really becomes light.
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Re: Invest 99L: Global & BAM Models=12z GFS,CMC rolling in

#217 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:53 am

66 hours

More stronger and moving NW.
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Re: Invest 99L: Global & BAM Models=12z GFS,CMC rolling in

#218 Postby LarryWx » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:58 am

The good initialization of the 12Z GFS (i.e. far enough east) is one factor allowing it to easily avoid a direct hit threat to Charleston and below. This is a good illustration of the "how far east" factor imho.
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Re: Invest 99L: Global & BAM Models=12z GFS,CMC rolling in

#219 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:58 am

78 hours

Stronger and moving NNW close to Cape Hatteras.

Meso what happened to CMC?
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Re: Invest 99L: Global & BAM Models=12z GFS,CMC rolling in

#220 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 05, 2007 11:03 am

90 hours

Just off OuterBanks.
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