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Re: Tropical Depression INGRID: Discussions & Images

#2461 Postby 'CaneFreak » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:55 am

miamicanes177 wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:circ remains very well-defined on QUIKSCAT this morning, have to disagree with this being close to a wave

incolclusive as to whether or not it has regained TS status (I have questions about the "uncontaiminated" 40KT vector)

http://manati.orbit.nesdis.noaa.gov/dat ... Bas100.png

I agree. I'm not sure how wxman57 says this is nearly an open wave when dvorak is giving it a T3.0.


A dvorak number of 3.0 has absolutely nothing to do with this being nearly an open wave. I have seen so many dvorak numbers of 2.0 with MANY WELL DEFINED WAVES and still no depression status was granted. Dvorak technique ESTIMATES an intensity based on a cloud pattern technique. Quickscat/recon has the final say.
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#2462 Postby Chacor » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:55 am

QuikSCAT wind vectors from 0920Z...
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#2463 Postby punkyg » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:56 am

So hows the shear over Ingrid.
and is the center under the convection.
oh and where did that ball of convection north of Ingrid come from.

Any one gonna one nice and answer my questions?
Oh is recon going out today.
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#2464 Postby Chacor » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:57 am

For what it's worth, TAFB 1145Z fix was T2.0/2.0.
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Re: T D INGRID: Discussions= Latest Quickscat at page 123

#2465 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:57 am

The LATEST at 13:45 UTC

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#2466 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Sep 16, 2007 8:58 am

it is inconclusive as to whether or not this is a TD or a TS... best to keep TD status for now
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Re: Tropical Depression INGRID: Discussions & Images

#2467 Postby hial2 » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:00 am

Air Force Met wrote:
This board has two reactions: Amateurs enthusiasts cheer because they get to track something; and the pro-mets boo...because they have to track something (which for a lot of us means working late...I was at work for 36 hours straight with Humberto). :lol:


C'mon AFM...36 straight hours meant lots of overtime!!..At your salary I'm sure you made,what,an extra 4k??... :D
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#2468 Postby 'CaneFreak » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:02 am

punkyg wrote:
So hows the shear over Ingrid.
and is the center under the convection.
oh and where did that ball of convection north of Ingrid come from.

Any one gonna one nice and answer my questions?
Oh is recon going out today.



Current Shear : 12.6 m/s

If you convert this, you should end up with about 25 knots of shear or so. Still pretty ferocious.

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic2/real ... 000&loop=9

This thing wont get in a non-sheared environment for at least another 48 hours though. I just dont think it can make it. There is still quite a bit of UL divergence over the system keeping at least a little bit of convection over our system, but the real question is, "HOW LONG CAN SHE HOLD ON?"
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Re: T D INGRID: Discussions= Latest Quickscat at page 123

#2469 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:12 am

1 thing is for sure, that Ingrid, regardless of intensity, will pass through a Herbert Box
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Re: Tropical Depression INGRID: Discussions & Images

#2470 Postby jrod » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:12 am

hial2 wrote:
Air Force Met wrote:
This board has two reactions: Amateurs enthusiasts cheer because they get to track something; and the pro-mets boo...because they have to track something (which for a lot of us means working late...I was at work for 36 hours straight with Humberto). :lol:


C'mon AFM...36 straight hours meant lots of overtime!!..At your salary I'm sure you made,what,an extra 4k??... :D


The military does not have overtime pay.
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Re: T D INGRID: Discussions= Latest Quickscat at page 123

#2471 Postby wxman57 » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:13 am

I don't know, the circulation doesn't appear as strong as yesterday, particularly on its western side. In any case, it's time to focus on the real threat, and that's not Ingrid. I'm quite concerned about a major hurricane in the NW Gulf later in the week - coming out of the SW Caribbean Tue/Wed.
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Re: Tropical Depression INGRID: Discussions & Images

#2472 Postby wxman57 » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:14 am

jrod wrote:
hial2 wrote:
The military does not have overtime pay.


Nor do I!
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Re: Tropical Depression INGRID: Discussions & Images

#2473 Postby stu » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:18 am

Well for what it is worth, the 06z GGDL now re builds Ingrid to almost CAT1 at the end of the run - this same model also said that this storm would be gone right now so I dont know what to trust now.
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#2474 Postby Gustywind » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:20 am

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Re: Tropical Depression INGRID: Discussions & Images

#2476 Postby hial2 » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:22 am

wxman57 wrote:
jrod wrote:
hial2 wrote:
The military does not have overtime pay.


Nor do I!


I would re-negotiate my contract...during hurricane season,of course!... :lol:
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#2477 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:23 am

with that upper trough over the Carib? I cannot see a major hurricane in the Gulf out of the SW Carib
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#2478 Postby Chacor » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:24 am

Can we please stop the offtopic posts?

Here's the latest Dvorak IR image...
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Re: Tropical Depression INGRID: Discussions & Images

#2479 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:27 am

The LATEST at 14:15 UTC

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#2480 Postby ExBailbonds » Sun Sep 16, 2007 9:28 am

It would appear from the last couple of sat shots that the convection is catching up to the LLC. Does this mean that the shear has relaxed a little?
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