Subtropical Storm GABRIELLE (ATL): Recon Discussion

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#41 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:48 pm

x-y-no wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:
x-y-no wrote:Well, it's warm core (if only weakly so) ...

Between 22.5 and 23 degrees outside, 24 degrees in the core.


What is considered a "tropical" or "subtropical" core?


That's one of those sort of ill-defined things ...

I'd say that since this is warm core and it appears to have detached from the trough, it's more tropical than subtropical (and the trend is towards purely tropical).


I'd expect the "non-tropical" to be dropped from the discussions with that data and the trend.
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#42 Postby x-y-no » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:51 pm

With flight level winds of maximum 33 knots and only one SFMR wind of 34 knots, I don't think this is Gabrielle quite yet.

Should be called a TD though in my opinion.
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#43 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:51 pm

x-y-no wrote:With flight level winds of maximum 33 knots and only one SFMR wind of 34 knots, I don't think this is Gabrielle quite yet.

Should be called a TD though in my opinion.


I agree. I think it is a 30 kt TD right now.
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Re: Invest 99L Recon Discussion

#44 Postby cycloneye » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:55 pm

Agree with both Jan and Crazy.And it will be tropical.
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Re: Invest 99L Recon Discussion

#45 Postby MGC » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:56 pm

Since 99L is warm core, has a closed circulation, I'd say it is a minimal TD.....MGC
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Re: Invest 99L Recon Discussion

#46 Postby x-y-no » Wed Sep 05, 2007 1:59 pm

184530 2922N 07027W 9772 00258 0064 +235 +235 357030 031 036 003 00


36 knot SFMR reading
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#47 Postby miamicanes177 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:00 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:
x-y-no wrote:With flight level winds of maximum 33 knots and only one SFMR wind of 34 knots, I don't think this is Gabrielle quite yet.

Should be called a TD though in my opinion.


I agree. I think it is a 30 kt TD right now.

Not with a 36kt SFMR reading...this is tropical storm Gabrielle
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Re: Invest 99L Recon Discussion

#48 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:01 pm

Waiting for a vortex message now.
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Re: Invest 99L Recon Discussion

#49 Postby JonathanBelles » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:02 pm

I'd now say minimal TS.
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#50 Postby x-y-no » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:03 pm

miamicanes177 wrote:
CrazyC83 wrote:
x-y-no wrote:With flight level winds of maximum 33 knots and only one SFMR wind of 34 knots, I don't think this is Gabrielle quite yet.

Should be called a TD though in my opinion.


I agree. I think it is a 30 kt TD right now.

Not with a 36kt SFMR reading...this is tropical storm Gabrielle


Yeah, maybe so. Our earlier posts were before that reading came in.

Even though flight level is lower, they might well credit that SFMR reading since the neighboring ones were almost as high.
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Re: Invest 99L Recon Discussion

#51 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:08 pm

There leaving?
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#52 Postby JonathanBelles » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:10 pm

That was too fast.
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Re: Invest 99L Recon Discussion

#53 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:10 pm

deltadog03 wrote:There leaving?


They are ascending - but it might be that they are elevating due to higher winds. It is a long way back to Biloxi though...
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#54 Postby HenkL » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:12 pm

Perhaps they want to drop some sondes from a higher level.
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Re: Invest 99L Recon Discussion

#55 Postby chris_fit » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:20 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:

They are ascending - but it might be that they are elevating due to higher winds. It is a long way back to Biloxi though...



Higher winds? lol. Sorry I don't think this thing is that strong yet.
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Re: Invest 99L Recon Discussion

#56 Postby hial2 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:45 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:

They are ascending - but it might be that they are elevating due to higher winds. It is a long way back to Biloxi though...


If they're eventually returning to the soon to be named Gabrielle,couldn't they land closer say Pensacola AFB and wait there?..why do they have to go all the way back to Biloxi?
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Re: Invest 99L Recon Discussion

#57 Postby miamicanes177 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:56 pm

So what is going on here? No VDM and no more obs coming in
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#58 Postby deltadog03 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:56 pm

Looks like they are gone....Thats really weird.
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#59 Postby chadtm80 » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:58 pm

Why no VDM? They found a closed low.. Dosen't that guarantee a VDM?
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#60 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Wed Sep 05, 2007 2:59 pm

chadtm80 wrote:Why no VDM? They found a closed low.. Dosen't that guarantee a VDM?


Yes it does, no VDM=that the LLC is not totally closed. That means no upgrade.
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