INVEST 91L : East of Lesser Antilles : Gone from NRL

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Re: INVEST 91L : Models Thread

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Re: INVEST 91L : Wave Central Atlantic : Discussions & Images

#43 Postby HurricaneMaster_PR » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:21 pm

TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1030 PM EDT WED OCT 3 2007

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY ASSOCIATED WITH THE NON-TROPICAL
AREA OF LOW PRESSURE IN THE EAST-CENTRAL GULF OF MEXICO REMAINS
MINIMAL. HOWEVER...THIS SYSTEM STILL HAS A WELL-DEFINED LOW-LEVEL
CIRCULATION AND COULD BECOME A TROPICAL OR SUBTROPICAL DEPRESSION
DURING THE NEXT DAY OR SO AS IT MOVES GENERALLY NORTHWESTWARD AT
ABOUT 10 MPH. INTERESTS IN THE NORTHERN GULF OF MEXICO COAST
SHOULD CONTINUE TO MONITOR THE PROGRESS OF THIS SYSTEM.

CLOUDINESS...SHOWERS...AND THUNDERSTORMS OVER THE WESTERN ATLANTIC
AND PORTIONS OF THE BAHAMAS ARE ASSOCIATED WITH A BROAD SURFACE
TROUGH. THIS ACTIVITY REMAINS DISORGANIZED...AND THERE IS NO
EVIDENCE OF A SURFACE CIRCULATION AT THIS TIME. HOWEVER...
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS APPEAR TO BE SOMEWHAT FAVORABLE FOR
DEVELOPMENT...AND A TROPICAL DEPRESSION COULD FORM IN THIS AREA
DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO. THIS SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO BEGIN A
SLOW WESTWARD MOTION ON THURSDAY.

AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE...IS
LOCATED ABOUT 1200 MILES EAST OF THE SOUTHERN WINDWARD ISLANDS.
WHILE THIS SYSTEM HAS SHOWN SOME SIGNS OF ORGANIZATION TODAY...
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY BECOME LESS FAVORABLE
FOR DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NEXT DAY OR TWO.


THE REMNANTS OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION MELISSA ARE LOCATED ABOUT 1250
MILES EAST-SOUTHEAST OF BERMUDA. SIGNIFICANT REDEVELOPMENT IS NOT
EXPECTED DUE TO STRONG UPPER-LEVEL WINDS.

ELSEWHERE...TROPICAL CYCLONE FORMATION IS NOT EXPECTED DURING THE
NEXT 48 HOURS.
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#44 Postby Gustywind » Wed Oct 03, 2007 9:51 pm

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Re: INVEST 91L : Wave Central Atlantic : Discussions & Images

#45 Postby wxman57 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 5:38 am

Shear appears to be on the increase this morning. Looks more ragged today. I'm beginning to think this one may not make it.
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#46 Postby Gustywind » Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:34 am

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ABNT20 KNHC 040924
TWOAT
TROPICAL WEATHER OUTLOOK
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
530 AM EDT THU OCT 4 2007

FOR THE NORTH ATLANTIC...CARIBBEAN SEA AND THE GULF OF MEXICO...

AN AREA OF LOWPRESSURE...ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE...IS LOCATED ABOUT 1150 MILES EAST OF THE SOUTHERN WINDWARD ISLANDS.
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO GRADUALLY BECOME LESS FAVORABLE
FOR DEVELOPMENT OVER THE NEXT DAY OR TWO.

Humm given what the NHC saying that's more credible with this rageed appareance...and very strong shear down the roas :eek: of Invest 91L...awfull for a fight :darrow:
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... g8sht.html :rarrow: Invest 91L begins to maybe feel a 15 kt of shear right now, but after that much more 20 to 30kt on this map :roll:
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... g8shr.html
:eek: not easy to pass these hurddles , chances are slimer to really see something develop from that...but we will see, just keep an eye :P :wink:
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#47 Postby Gustywind » Thu Oct 04, 2007 6:39 am

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AXNT20 KNHC 041112
TWDAT

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
805 AM EDT THU OCT 04 2007

TROPICAL WEATHER DISCUSSION FOR NORTH AMERICA...CENTRAL
AMERICA...THE GULF OF MEXICO...THE CARIBBEAN SEA...NORTHERN SECTIONS OF SOUTH AMERICA...AND THE ATLANTIC OCEAN TO THE AFRICAN COAST FROM THE EQUATOR TO 32N. THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION IS BASED ON SATELLITE
IMAGERY...METEOROLOGICAL ANALYSIS...
WEATHER OBSERVATIONS...AND RADAR.

BASED ON 0600 UTC SURFACE ANALYSIS AND SATELLITE IMAGERY
THROUGH 1045 UTC.

...SPECIAL FEATURES...

A 1012 MB LOW PRESSURE CENTER IS ALONG A 44W/45W TROPICAL WAVE
THAT IS SOUTH OF 15N...AND MOVING WEST 10 TO 15 KT. SCATTERED
STRONG SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS FROM 11N TO 17N BETWEEN 47W
AND 48W. ISOLATED MODERATE SHOWERS ELSEWHERE FROM 10N TO 20N
BETWEEN 40W AND 47W. UPPER-LEVEL WINDS ARE EXPECTED TO BECOME
GRADUALLY LESS FAVORABLE FOR DEVELOPMENT TO A TROPICAL CYCLONE
DURING THE NEXT DAY OR TWO.
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Re: INVEST 91L : Wave Central Atlantic : Discussions & Images

#48 Postby mightyerick » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:09 am

Good day, people!!!!!!!!!

This morning the poor 91L looks HORRIBLE... mainly in the infrared.
it is between live and death... and the TS window is closing too quickly
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Re: INVEST 91L : Wave Central Atlantic : Discussions & Images

#49 Postby wxman57 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:31 am

Yes, odds of 91L developing are looking slim. I've managed to kill 90L and 91L and keep 92L from developing for another few days so I can get to that bike ride in Lufkin Saturday morning.
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Re: INVEST 91L : Wave Central Atlantic : Discussions & Images

#50 Postby Sanibel » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:49 am

It never fails. As soon as I say "I guarantee this will form" the gods of fate are listening and immediately break the storm down with shear and weakness.
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#51 Postby Chacor » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:18 am

AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE...IS
LOCATED ABOUT 1050 MILES EAST OF THE SOUTHERN WINDWARD ISLANDS.
THIS SYSTEM HAS BECOME LESS ORGANIZED OVER THE PAST 24 HOURS...AND
UPPER-LEVEL WINDS HAVE BECOME LESS FAVORABLE FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
DEVELOPMENT.

Upper level winds win again?
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Re: 91L : Wave Central Atlantic :11:30 AM TWO at page 2

#52 Postby mightyerick » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:44 am

the chances of see tropical activity this week are falling like a falling rock that is falling.
Upper level winds everywhere!!!!!!!!
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Re: 91L : Wave Central Atlantic : Discussions & Images

#53 Postby wxman57 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:09 pm

This one no longer warrants an invest. Shear is increasing. Just an average tropical wave in high shear.
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Re: 91L : Wave Central Atlantic : Discussions & Images

#54 Postby chadtm80 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:13 pm

I agree with you wxman. 91L had its chance early yesturday and Tuesday. Was a very short window and that window has now been shattered. Expect 91 to be gone from NRL tonight or tomorrow at the latest
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Re: INVEST 91L : Models Thread

#55 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 04, 2007 1:47 pm


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WHXX01 KWBC 041822
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1822 UTC THU OCT 4 2007

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL912007) 20071004 1800 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
071004 1800 071005 0600 071005 1800 071006 0600

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 10.0N 46.2W 10.9N 48.4W 11.8N 50.6W 12.5N 52.6W
BAMD 10.0N 46.2W 10.9N 47.9W 11.9N 49.5W 12.7N 50.9W
BAMM 10.0N 46.2W 10.9N 48.6W 12.0N 50.6W 12.7N 52.4W
LBAR 10.0N 46.2W 10.7N 48.3W 11.7N 50.5W 12.9N 52.8W
SHIP 25KTS 25KTS 25KTS 28KTS
DSHP 25KTS 25KTS 25KTS 28KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
071006 1800 071007 1800 071008 1800 071009 1800

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 13.3N 54.7W 14.9N 58.9W 17.1N 62.6W 18.6N 64.5W
BAMD 13.3N 52.2W 14.7N 54.9W 16.7N 57.8W 19.4N 60.0W
BAMM 13.4N 54.2W 15.2N 57.4W 18.0N 59.7W 21.4N 59.2W
LBAR 14.1N 55.1W 17.0N 58.7W 21.2N 58.4W 25.0N 51.9W
SHIP 31KTS 36KTS 44KTS 55KTS
DSHP 31KTS 36KTS 44KTS 55KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 10.0N LONCUR = 46.2W DIRCUR = 275DEG SPDCUR = 13KT
LATM12 = 9.7N LONM12 = 43.6W DIRM12 = 275DEG SPDM12 = 13KT
LATM24 = 9.6N LONM24 = 41.2W
WNDCUR = 25KT RMAXWD = 30NM WNDM12 = 25KT
CENPRS = 1010MB OUTPRS = 1013MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM

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Still hanging on a fine line as invest.
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#56 Postby CrazyC83 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:29 pm

This was a sitting duck to begin with due to the high shear. I can't see any more deep Atlantic systems forming this season...
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Re: 91L : Wave Central Atlantic : Discussions & Images

#57 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 04, 2007 4:22 pm

5:30 PM TWO:

AN AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE...IS
LOCATED ABOUT 1050 MILES EAST OF THE SOUTHERN WINDWARD ISLANDS AND
IS PRODUCING SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS. UPPER-LEVEL
WINDS ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE DEVELOPMENT.
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Re: INVEST 91L : Models Thread

#58 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 04, 2007 7:44 pm

WHXX01 KWBC 050038
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0038 UTC FRI OCT 5 2007

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL912007) 20071005 0000 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
071005 0000 071005 1200 071006 0000 071006 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 10.3N 47.1W 11.3N 49.3W 12.1N 51.5W 12.8N 53.6W
BAMD 10.3N 47.1W 11.2N 48.8W 12.1N 50.2W 12.7N 51.5W
BAMM 10.3N 47.1W 11.2N 49.6W 12.1N 51.4W 12.8N 53.2W
LBAR 10.3N 47.1W 11.3N 49.1W 12.4N 51.0W 13.6N 53.1W
SHIP 25KTS 25KTS 25KTS 26KTS
DSHP 25KTS 25KTS 25KTS 26KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
071007 0000 071008 0000 071009 0000 071010 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 13.6N 55.5W 15.8N 59.4W 18.0N 61.9W 19.5N 63.4W
BAMD 13.4N 52.8W 15.1N 55.5W 17.6N 58.2W 20.8N 60.0W
BAMM 13.7N 54.8W 16.1N 57.2W 19.3N 57.8W 22.9N 56.2W
LBAR 14.8N 55.1W 17.7N 57.8W 21.9N 56.4W 25.9N 48.9W
SHIP 28KTS 31KTS 38KTS 44KTS
DSHP 28KTS 31KTS 38KTS 44KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 10.3N LONCUR = 47.1W DIRCUR = 280DEG SPDCUR = 12KT
LATM12 = 9.8N LONM12 = 44.9W DIRM12 = 277DEG SPDM12 = 13KT
LATM24 = 9.6N LONM24 = 42.3W
WNDCUR = 25KT RMAXWD = 30NM WNDM12 = 25KT
CENPRS = 1010MB OUTPRS = 1013MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM

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#59 Postby Gustywind » Thu Oct 04, 2007 8:00 pm

Latest sat pic from Meteo-France 830 PM...hard time for 91 L in this shear environnement...very strong winds are persisting down the road...
http://www.meteo.gp/donnees/satellite/TAG/Tagant.jpg
Pretty strong right now and maybe more at 40kts for the next 24h...good luck!
http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... g8shr.html
Still strong in this shear map :eek: http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... g8sht.html
:double: :spam: :wink:
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Re: 91L : Wave Central Atlantic : Discussions & Images

#60 Postby cycloneye » Thu Oct 04, 2007 9:24 pm

10:30 PM TWO:

A WEAK AREA OF LOW PRESSURE...ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE...IS
LOCATED ABOUT 975 MILES EAST OF THE SOUTHERN WINDWARD ISLANDS AND
IS PRODUCING SOME SHOWER AND THUNDERSTORM ACTIVITY. UPPER-LEVEL
WINDS ARE NOT FAVORABLE FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE DEVELOPMENT.
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