INVEST 92L : NE Atlantic : Discussions & Images

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

just cause a storm is out of "territory" doesnt mean it isnt a storm

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

My post was towards wxman57. He may even agree with it. He At least I believe wents a system that is fair to for all systems.

[Tampa Bay Hurricane]

but matt i think there was 18 names storms this year as i called them in my
above posts...but they were too out of territory for classification

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

you cannot call every cyclone with gale force winds a tropical storm. Or are you referring to to warm core cyclones?

Warm core...

Also the tropical storm force winds to fix the program of Tracy and Charley like systems. Lets say that tropical storm force winds need to cover 15-20 percent of the wind field to be upgraded to tropical storm. Why, because I've read a few times that wxman57 was saying something about this, and he believe that the tropical storm force winds should be over a large enough area and last a long time. In it appears to me that is the way most systems outside of recon reach are treated. Do you think its fair.

[wxman57]

My post was towards wxman57. He may even agree with it. He At least I believe wents a system that is fair to for all systems.

One problem I've had with the NHC in the last decade is that a system located over the NW Gulf would be named. But if that same system was in the eastern Atlantic it would be ignored. It's not an argument for naming everything, it's an argument for consistency.

[HURAKAN]

That has also come to our attention many times in the discussions. One difference between a gulf system and a system in the eastern Atlantic is the data available. In the gulf data is plentiful while in the eastern Atlantic is scarce. I guess they don't want to upgrade a system just based on satellite appearance and Dvorak support. This is mainly the case in borderline systems.

[cycloneye]

Gone from NRL.The best time this was looking like it was close to being a subtropical system was on wednesday morning around 12:00 UTC.

[Sanibel]

Is this it for 2007 people?

[Ed Mahmoud]

Is this it for 2007 people?

The WestPac has to be good for at least one more invest.

[Squarethecircle]

Not only that, the southern hemisphere should be kicking into gear fairly soon as well; usually there are a few [fairly] strong storms before the end of the year.

[vegastar]

Is it really dead?

[Matt-hurricanewatcher]

Does not appear to be dead from here

[Category 5]

Is this it for 2007 people?

Nope. Theres other basins too.

Don't count the Atlantic out, it's got a habit of popping storms in the final days of November and earll december lately, minus 2006

In fact, the last non El Nino year in which a storm hasn't formed in the last week of november or the first week of december was 2000.

[HURAKAN]

Nice!

[vegastar]

They updated the floater:



Convection is decreasing in intensity because of cold water, I think.

It is very close to the azores:

http://www.meteo.pt/en/observacao/superficie/observacaoEmaRegional.jsp?regiaoRadio=14&regiao=3&tipoObs=vento

The winds are in km/h and are 10 min averages, so 1 minute winds are certainly higher.

[HURAKAN]

09/0615 UTC 37.3N 27.4W ST2.5/2.5 92L

[littlevince]

It is very close to the azores:
http://www.meteo.pt/en/observacao/superficie/observacaoEmaRegional.jsp?regiaoRadio=14&regiao=3&tipoObs=vento

More weather stations in Azores:
http://www.gisclimaat.angra.uac.pt/weat ... elago2.php (portuguese only)

[Squarethecircle]

This is a very persistent storm. Development is possible, I think, but quite unlikely. We will probably get other invests before the year is out.

[islandweathergeek]

gfdl shows 64knots in 24hr

[Chacor]

gfdl shows 64knots in 24hr

Doesn't make a difference if it's cold core.