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#981 Postby WmE » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:51 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:
gatorcane wrote:
Derek Ortt wrote:theya re both TDs per the official file and the recon report (well, TD 8 is listen in ther econ report, but TD 9 is in the official file)


so we should see the official NHC cone at 11:30AM.

We are all curious....



Yes..I think the Gulf should get humberto and Atl get I storm per I stoms have all been monsters..


Like Irene 2005 or Isaac 2006, right? :D
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Re: Invest 91L,East of Windwards: Discussions & Images

#982 Postby seaswing » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:52 am

or Ivan 2004 :eek:
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#983 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:53 am

so we should see the official NHC cone at 11:30AM.

We are all curious


Yes..I think the Gulf should get humberto and Atl get I storm per I stoms have all been monsters..[/quote]

Like Irene 2005 or Isaac 2006, right? :D[/quote]

LOL...No sir like Ivan,Iris..Should have said alot of I storms..
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Re: Invest 91L,East of Windwards: Discussions & Images

#984 Postby windstorm99 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:54 am

Jeff Masters update Just in

91L could become a tropical depression today
A strong tropical wave near 12.5N 44W, 1100 miles east of the Lesser Antilles Islands, is headed west-northwest at 10 mph. This system (91L) has the potential to develop into a tropical depression today, and has the potential to become a large and dangerous major hurricane next week. This morning's QuikSCAT pass captured only the western side of the circulation, but did have some believable winds of 30-35 knots (35-40 mph). Last night's QuikSCAT pass showed an elliptical but better-defined circulation. The circulation looked more circular and better-defined in a pass from the European ASCAT satellite a few hours after that. A circular motion of winds around the center is much more conducive for strengthening than an elliptical circulation. Satellite loops show considerable improvement in organization has occurred since yesterday--a large area of thunderstorms that reach high in the atmosphere (as evidenced by very cold cloud tops on infrared satellite imagery) has formed near the circulation center. An upper-level outflow channel has opened to the south, and some low-level spiral banding is now apparent, particularly to the north. These spiral bands are also apparent on the latest microwave satellite imagery (Figure 1). Wind shear has dropped below 10 knots, and with warm 28 C waters underneath, 91L should become a tropical depression later today.

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Shear is forecast to remain below 10 knots for the next 3-4 days, which should allow 91L the opportunity to grow to a Category 1 hurricane or stronger before it reaches the Lesser Antilles Islands. However, the SHIPS, GFDL, and HWRF intensity models all keep 91L below hurricane strength for the next five days. I think this is unrealistic, given the favorable conditions for strengthening present. The big question concerns the track--there is a good chance that 91L will miss the Lesser Antilles, as the current steering currents favor a more northwesterly track for the storm over the coming days. The system has already moved north of Barbados' latitude, and the southern Lesser Antilles Islands are unlikely to receive a direct hit from 91L. Most of the models indicate a west-northwest motion near 10-15 mph, which would bring 91L to the northern islands Monday. The U.S. East Coast may be at risk from this storm ten or so days from now, but it is far too early to speculate on the chance of this occurring, or what region might be most at risk.

The NOAA Hurricane Hunters may fly a research mission into 91L Thursday evening.

I'll have an update later today if either system develops into a tropical depression.

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Re: Invest 91L,East of Windwards: Discussions & Images

#985 Postby WmE » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:55 am

seaswing wrote:or Ivan 2004 :eek:


or Isabel 2003, I know.
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#986 Postby gatorcane » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:55 am

To me Humberto sounds like one of those September Cape Verde canes....

I would use Humberto for the Atlantic
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#987 Postby MWatkins » Wed Sep 12, 2007 8:59 am

Upgrade is all but assured based on the satellite appearance and the fact that the POTD refers to the system as Tropical Depression 8.

This could be a big hurricane by the weekend...

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#989 Postby Windsurfer_NYC » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:16 am

12/1145 UTC 13.0N 44.9W T2.0/2.0 91L -- Atlantic Ocean
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#990 Postby opera ghost » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:17 am

MWatkins wrote:Upgrade is all but assured based on the satellite appearance and the fact that the POTD refers to the system as Tropical Depression 8.

This could be a big hurricane by the weekend...

MW


If it follows the pattern of the rest of the season it'll be a category 5 (possible although frankly hard to believe) while the homebrew never makes it to hurricane (likely).

This has gotta be one of the weirdest seasons for intensity.
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Re: Invest 91L,East of Windwards: Discussions & Images

#991 Postby Fego » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:35 am

MWatkins, hello, when you say big, is in terms of size or intensity?, and, do you see a Leeward Islands, Puerto Rico, in a possible impact zone?
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Re: Invest 91L,East of Windwards: Discussions & Images

#992 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:37 am

I think that this one could also be a very large storm as far as diameter. When we saw its disorganized mess just a day and two ago, it was obvious that there was a lot of moisture to work with and a very broad circulation trying to get established within that.

Which storm was it a few years back, Frances or Jeane that took like 3 days to cross Florida? -at least 3 days of bad weather was expereienced here in Tampa Bay, though not sure how long the "eye" was actually over the state.

This could be a similarly large storm. Hopefully whoever gets it, it won't take forever to move along. Floyd-like rains wouldn't be welcome anywhere...current drought or not!
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Re: Invest 91L,East of Windwards: Discussions & Images

#993 Postby seaswing » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:38 am

I believe the rainmaker in 04 was Frances.
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#994 Postby jhamps10 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:38 am

we OFFICALLY have TD 8 per 11AM nhc advisory, see advisory thread for info.
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#995 Postby jhamps10 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:40 am

BULLETIN
TROPICAL DEPRESSION EIGHT ADVISORY NUMBER 1
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL AL082007
1100 AM EDT WED SEP 12 2007

...TROPICAL DEPRESSION FORMS WELL EAST OF THE LESSER ANTILLES...

AT 1100 AM EDT...1500Z...THE CENTER OF TROPICAL DEPRESSION EIGHT WAS
LOCATED NEAR LATITUDE 13.2 NORTH...LONGITUDE 44.6 WEST OR ABOUT 1130
MILES...1815 KM...EAST OF THE LESSER ANTILLES.

THE DEPRESSION IS MOVING TOWARD THE WEST-NORTHWEST NEAR 12 MPH...19
KM/HR...AND THIS GENERAL MOTION IS EXPECTED TO CONTINUE WITH SOME
DECREASE IN FORWARD SPEED DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS.

MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS ARE NEAR 35 MPH...55 KM/HR...WITH HIGHER
GUSTS. SOME STRENGTHENING IS FORECAST DURING THE NEXT 24 HOURS
AND THE DEPRESSION COULD BECOME A TROPICAL STORM LATER TODAY OR
TONIGHT.

ESTIMATED MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE IS 1007 MB...29.74 INCHES.

FORCASTER BROWN
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Re: TD#8 (ATL): Discussions & Images

#996 Postby windstorm99 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:41 am

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Re: Invest 91L,East of Windwards: Discussions & Images

#997 Postby TreasureIslandFLGal » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:42 am

IF that storm decides to take a similar path to Frances, which is actually not at all out of the question, that may postpone my inlaws' visit to our place next week! haha :lol:

They are supposedly driving from Raleigh down here to Tampa Bay on the 19th or 20th. -but if a storm is brewing, they may not come...whether it looks to be coming this way or heading to the Carolinas.

Hmmm.... this could prove very interesting. I am going to go look up the old synoptics that led up to Frances' visit back in '04. :wink:
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Re: TD#8 (ATL): Discussions & Images

#998 Postby windstorm99 » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:47 am

Not much intensification is expected in the long range as shear is set to increase.Things could change in the coming days though.
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Re: TD#8 (ATL): Discussions & Images

#999 Postby sponger » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:49 am

Look like we have our first real threat for the US East Coast. We had all better pray for shear or a trough to steer this away. Frances covered Florida and this one could impact a wide area at landfall.
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#1000 Postby x-y-no » Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:51 am

Ugh ... very slow movement forecast.

I have travel plans the 22nd - 25th ... hope this doesn't mess that up.
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