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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10121 Postby Cape Verde » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:08 pm

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Innotech wrote:the more I think about the levee design in New Orleans, the angrier I get. It is so half assed its not even funny. They need to consult with engineers from the Netherlands, who have the finest dike and levee systems in the world. It is highly important that these levees have thresholds far above even the strongest hurricane. It would cost a lot but so does search and rescue and extensive flood damage. Personally Id rarther spend a hundred million on getting the levees right than dealing with the social and political repercussions of a disasterl ike Katrina. but then again, Im not a Louisiana politician.


Oh, it's way more expensive than that -- it'd be billions up on billions. But I agree; if you're going to have a major metropolitan city below sea level that is very prone to getting hurricanes, you should fortify it so you don't have to drain the place every 20 years. It's not like we live in Haiti and can't afford it that kind of protection.

my point is, price shouldnt matter when youre talking about protecting a major historical city, critical port, and population center. IT should have one of the finest levee systems in the world but its so amateur looking.


New Orleans is ultimately doomed. Not in our lifetime, probably, but it's going to continue to subside and get further and further below sea level. And it has nothing to do with global warming or rising sea levels. It has everything to do with the natural geologic processes that have been going on for millions of years.

It's the way of the Gulf Coast. We can't stop it.

We can continue to build higher levees, but can we build them 2000 feet high? 5 miles high?

New Orleans is going to continue to sink below sea level and there is not anything we can do to stop it.
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10122 Postby vbhoutex » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:11 pm

Please keep the discussion on Gustav.
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10123 Postby Innotech » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:13 pm

IN the meantime, why not make the best of it? Why half ass it? EIther keep the levees up to date or give up on N.O.
Im in the middle of Gustav myself so its not like Im blocking information from people. And this Is kind of about Gustav.
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#10124 Postby Enzo Aquarius » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:17 pm

Aerial reports will begin tomorrow of the storm-affected areas occuring today.
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#10125 Postby LAwxrgal » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:17 pm

I just heard on CNN that Gustav had concentric eyewalls. Can anyone confirm or deny this? And if so, what exactly does this mean? Thanks!
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10126 Postby Innotech » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:18 pm

power still up but it could be going any minute. winds are really blasting. 50-65 mph now Im guessing.
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10127 Postby Enzo Aquarius » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:20 pm

Best of luck!

The ships I mentioned earlier are 2 scrap naval vessels and 1 barge.
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10128 Postby Sanibel » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:23 pm

Here it goes for Lafayette. Should increase from there. Eyewall still intact.


The eye was dirty from land contact. If there was a double eye in there it would only be a guess.
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10129 Postby Enzo Aquarius » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:25 pm

Industrial Canal is calming down a bit, less water overflowing over the levees. Dry air is starting to get into the bands.
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#10130 Postby HarlequinBoy » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:25 pm

Please are there any reports out of Terrebonne Parish?
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#10131 Postby Enzo Aquarius » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:29 pm

HarlequinBoy wrote:Please are there any reports out of Terrebonne Parish?


This may help: http://www.wdsu.com/hurricane-gustav-te ... index.html and http://www.theexaminer.com/npps/story.cfm?ID=2467
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10132 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:31 pm

Really starting to blow now. Just got a text from a friend in Baton Rouge, they had 50 foot pine tree just smash their house but they're ok. Luckily I don't have to worry about big trees at my house but power will be gone soon I'm afraid. What kinds of winds can I expect? Weather service still says gusts to 105mph possible this afternoon :eek: .
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10133 Postby Janie2006 » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:31 pm

This is the offsite emergency Terrebonne Parish government website:

http://www.tpcg.org/

I don't see any damage reports yet, however.

Edited to add: Here they are...

http://www.tpcg.org/full_story.php?id=46
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10134 Postby Enzo Aquarius » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:35 pm

PTrackerLA wrote:Really starting to blow now. Just got a text from a friend in Baton Rouge, they had 50 foot pine tree just smash their house but they're ok. Luckily I don't have to worry about big trees at my house but power will be gone soon I'm afraid. What kinds of winds can I expect? Weather service still says gusts to 105mph possible this afternoon :eek: .


Wind gusts are still going strong with Gustav, even after being on land for this time. Don't be surprised to get some heavy winds.
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#10135 Postby PTrackerLA » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:37 pm

Power just flashed, but came back on. Winds have gotten very strong.
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10136 Postby crazycajuncane » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:37 pm

It's going south quick here. Just heard a large snap of a tree around here. Thank goodness it is daytime. You can see absolutely everything going on. I'll be able to post until the cox communications goes out. I am sure it will go eventually. Our power did. Thankfully we've got the generator!
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10137 Postby Enzo Aquarius » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:38 pm

crazycajuncane wrote:It's going south quick here. Just heard a large snap of a tree around here. Thank goodness it is daytime. You can see absolutely everything going on. I'll be able to post until the cox communications goes out. I am sure it will go eventually. Our power did. Thankfully we've got the generator!


Phone lines have been reported to be staying intact, so hopefully all stays well. *knocks on wood*
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#10138 Postby HarlequinBoy » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:40 pm

Where's the link to the Gustav tornado thread?
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#10139 Postby tailgater » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:40 pm

soonertwister wrote:Hurricane Hanna now.

Hurricane warnings up for Turks and Caicos and southern Bahama Islands.


keep that B**ch out of the gulf
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Re: Cat 2 Hurricane Gustav makes landfall-Cocodrie, LA

#10140 Postby crazycajuncane » Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:40 pm

Just got a call that the power is back on, but for how long? That's anyones guess!

Eyewall moving closer and closer to the area.
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