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#1701 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:00 pm

Bailey1777 wrote:Arik do you see a signifigant shft right in track?

I still see pretty much straight west.. no significant shift yet..

what everyone is likely seeing is a illusion from the radar looking so high up

also vis sat loops show a slight slow down but that is likely do to the convection blowing up and causing the center to wobble and shift around more but a west track is still what i have been plotting for a while now
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#1702 Postby Bailey1777 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:01 pm

Me too just making sure I'm seeing right.
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#1703 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:02 pm

Wow....this thing is NOT moving west northwest....its moving west....its an ILLUSION....look at the LA coast relative to the storm. Its not getting any closer to LA right now....look at the radar that RL3AO posted a minute ago...not moving west northwest...moving west...at about 7 or 8 mph...
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1704 Postby hriverajr » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:03 pm

Nah seems to be moving pretty much due west. Outflow may be improving a little bit to the north giving the illusion of a NW movement.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1705 Postby vbhoutex » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:04 pm

Honeyko wrote:Eyewall cells now developing....

I was noticing that too. With the pressure apparently beginning to fall again and the now imo obvious organization starting to take place I will not be at all surprised if Edouard is very near or just over Hurricane strength at landfall. Definitely looks like a wind wet day for the upper Texas coast and Houston metro area tomorrow.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1706 Postby 'CaneFreak » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:05 pm

hriverajr wrote:Nah seems to be moving pretty much due west. Outflow may be improving a little bit to the north giving the illusion of a NW movement.


Thanks for the clarification. :wink:
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1707 Postby Normandy » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:05 pm

http://www.rap.ucar.edu/weather/satelli ... uration=12

I think the problem people are having is that they aren't tracking the low center, but tracking the cloud motions of the convection. Remember that earlier Ed was not a symmetrical storm, but now he is much closer to being symmetrical. I look at that loop and notice two things.......1) Westward movement and 2) very slow movement of the center due to convective bursts causing wobbles.
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#1708 Postby Bailey1777 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:05 pm

Thank you it does make a difference to those of us who live here.
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#1709 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:05 pm

Yep I think Aric is right there is the illusion of the center being further north on radar but the actual center is that little nook right on the southern side where the cells are popping up around it, i'm seeing roughly 275 as i said before. Dry air still looks like its working its way into the core mind you as well.
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#1710 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:06 pm

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Ed looks to be improving.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1711 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:08 pm

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I keep hoping it will start to lose some convection again but so far it keeps looking better and better.
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#1712 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:09 pm

The other thing that looks interesting is it does appear at least on Vis imagery to have slowed just a touch though recon will confirm or deny that over the next few hours.

New convection in the SW qaudrant should grow over the top of the LLC soon.
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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1713 Postby Tireman4 » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:10 pm

hriverajr wrote:Nah seems to be moving pretty much due west. Outflow may be improving a little bit to the north giving the illusion of a NW movement.



Yep as the NHC said it would.
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#1714 Postby Steve » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:11 pm

Took a walk down to the Mississippi River via Canal Street and got a couple of photos. The first is looking back north toward Harrah's Casino which shows some palms blowing. Second is looking down Canal Street also showing the palms blowing. It was gusting to the low 20's up there, but there were no signs of rain in the sky - just that tropical look of different types of clouds streaming in mostly from the southeast.

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Sorry the quality sucks, but my camera phone isn't the greatest. Hope you enjoy the live shots anyway.

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Re: ATL: Tropical Storm Edouard - Gulf of Mexico

#1715 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:13 pm

oil rig right near the coast sustained tropical storm force which is a big difference from earlier when it was convection less..

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#1716 Postby carversteve » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:15 pm

HURAKAN wrote:Image

Ed looks to be improving.

He seems to be be wrapping up into a nice little storm..outflow looks good!!
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#1717 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:17 pm

Yep it doesn't look bad but we need to see it hold this presentation and get some more convection before it really strengthen any, recon has found a slightly lower pressure bt winds are no higher then before...yet...
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#1718 Postby kurtpage » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:20 pm

KWT wrote:Yep it doesn't look bad but we need to see it hold this presentation and get some more convection before it really strengthen any, recon has found a slightly lower pressure bt winds are no higher then before...yet...



just found 56 KNOT winds....
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#1719 Postby drezee » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:21 pm

kurtpage wrote:
KWT wrote:Yep it doesn't look bad but we need to see it hold this presentation and get some more convection before it really strengthen any, recon has found a slightly lower pressure bt winds are no higher then before...yet...



just found 56 KNOT winds....


That data is suspect...

171130 2801N 09106W 8456 01511 0077 +142 +142 315026 030 056 022 00


flight winds were 26 kts...
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#1720 Postby kurtpage » Mon Aug 04, 2008 12:22 pm

drezee wrote:
kurtpage wrote:
KWT wrote:Yep it doesn't look bad but we need to see it hold this presentation and get some more convection before it really strengthen any, recon has found a slightly lower pressure bt winds are no higher then before...yet...



just found 56 KNOT winds....


That data is suspect...

171130 2801N 09106W 8456 01511 0077 +142 +142 315026 030 056 022 00


flight winds were 26 kts...


it was not marked 03 as suspect....
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