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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Western Atlantic

#3501 Postby cpdaman » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:01 pm

I think in the last 3 hours bertha has started her audition for the snickers commercial

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-vis.html "not going anywhere for awhile".
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Western Atlantic

#3502 Postby srainhoutx » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:12 pm

HPC had a lot of thoughts concerning Bertha today...Good read :wink:

http://www.hpc.ncep.noaa.gov/discussions/pmdepd.html
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#3503 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:25 pm

I dont know, im not a pro. But it looks like Bertha may be undergoing a transition to being an annular hurricane. Look at it. The bands are consolidating into a very large, very round cdo(per visible imagery) with exceptional outflow in all directions, convection isnt VERY deep, though appears to be increasing slowly as of the last few frames, and a large outer eyewall is forming. If this does happen and Bertha undergoes an EWRC, it looks like she might strengthen tonight and be able to maintain that strength longer. However, this is just my opinion and some pro-met feedback would be nice.
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#3504 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:31 pm

cheezyWXguy wrote:I dont know, im not a pro. But it looks like Bertha may be undergoing a transition to being an annular hurricane. Look at it. The bands are consolidating into a very large, very round cdo(per visible imagery) with exceptional outflow in all directions, convection isnt VERY deep, though appears to be increasing slowly as of the last few frames, and a large outer eyewall is forming. If this does happen and Bertha undergoes an EWRC, it looks like she might strengthen tonight and be able to maintain that strength longer. However, this is just my opinion and some pro-met feedback would be nice.


I was thinking that earlier.
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#3505 Postby Thunder44 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:34 pm

Derek Ortt wrote:the dry air has been unable to penetrate the eyewall due to the lack of shear


I should of said the dry air was getting into the outer core.
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#3506 Postby caribepr » Thu Jul 10, 2008 2:58 pm

Thanks, Chad! Keeping things consolidated in an easily accessible way...what could be better (you'll find something, no doubt!!)?
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#3507 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:36 pm

Track map to date.

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#3508 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:38 pm

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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Western Atlantic

#3509 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:50 pm

Track shifts a little west.

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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Western Atlantic

#3510 Postby tolakram » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:50 pm

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Bertha looks awfully good for a hurricane only expected to increase by 5 kts in 2 days. I think it's primed to intensify, but only time will tell.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Western Atlantic

#3511 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:51 pm

IN THE SHORT TERM...THIS
PATTERN SHOULD CAUSE BERTHA TO TURN NORTHWARD AS SHOWN IN THE NEW
FORECAST TRACK. DURING THE 36-72 HR PERIOD...A MID-LEVEL RIDGE
DEVELOPING BEHIND THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH IS LIKELY TO BLOCK BERTHA'S
NORTHWARD MOTION...WITH THE POSSIBILITY OF ERRATIC MOTION NEAR OR
TO THE EAST OF BERMUDA. THEREAFTER...THE LARGE-SCALE MODELS
CURRENTLY AGREE THAT A SECOND TROUGH MOVING THROUGH THE
NORTHWESTERN ATLANTIC WILL BYPASS BERTHA...LEAVING THE STORM
TRAPPED IN THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE TO THE NORTH OR NORTHEAST OF
BERMUDA. IN A MAJOR SHIFT FROM PREVIOUS RUNS...NONE OF THE
DYNAMICAL MODELS SHOW BERTHA REACHING 40N IN 5 DAYS.
BASED ON
THIS...THE FORECAST TRACK WILL CALL FOR A SLOWER NORTHWARD MOTION
THAN IN THE PREVIOUS PACKAGE... WITH THE TRACK SMOOTHING THROUGH
SOME OF THE ERRATIC MOTION FORECASTS IN THE MODELS. THE NEW TRACK
IS CLOSER TO BERMUDA THAN THE PREVIOUS TRACK...AND BERTHA COULD COME
EVEN CLOSER TO BERMUDA IF THE JOGS TO THE LEFT IN THE UKMET AND
CANADIAN MODELS VERIFY.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Western Atlantic

#3512 Postby tolakram » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:53 pm

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#3513 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:54 pm

It seems we have Bertha for at least a week. This will most likely allow Bertha to continue breaking new ground in the record books of S2K in the number of pages per thread.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Western Atlantic

#3514 Postby Hurricanewatcher2007 » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:57 pm

Could Bertha become a problem for the US after all?
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#3515 Postby cycloneye » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:58 pm

HURAKAN wrote:It seems we have Bertha for at least a week. This will most likely allow Bertha to continue breaking new ground in the record books of S2K in the number of pages per thread.


This thread is closing in on 4th place on the list of most pages as Frances had 187.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Western Atlantic

#3516 Postby Brent » Thu Jul 10, 2008 3:59 pm

What is the longest-lived July hurricane?
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Western Atlantic

#3517 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:00 pm

Hurricanewatcher2007 wrote:Could Bertha become a problem for the US after all?


Unlikely. But it could become a threat to Canada.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Western Atlantic

#3518 Postby RL3AO » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:00 pm

Brent wrote:What is the longest-lived July hurricane?


Hurricane Bertha is back at Category 2 status, and appears destined to become one of the longest-lasting July hurricanes on record. Hurricane Emily of 2005 spent seven full days at hurricane strength in July, which I believe is the record. Bertha is halfway there.


http://www.wunderground.com/blog/JeffMasters/comment.html?entrynum=980&tstamp=200807
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#3519 Postby HURAKAN » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:04 pm

cycloneye wrote:
HURAKAN wrote:It seems we have Bertha for at least a week. This will most likely allow Bertha to continue breaking new ground in the record books of S2K in the number of pages per thread.


This thread is closing in on 4th place on the list of most pages as Frances had 187.


I think we are in pace to pass two hundred. There is a lot of Bertha left.

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This makes the case for the EWRC.
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Re: Hurricane Bertha in Western Atlantic

#3520 Postby micktooth » Thu Jul 10, 2008 4:16 pm

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Did you ever think yesterday, that we would have such a nice looking storm today?


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