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#3901 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:53 am

she will probably be one of those systems that land has very minimal affect on.. it is moving fast and is in a great environment .. the RI if someone can find is probably pretty high right now
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Caribbean

#3902 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:53 am

lrak wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Time and time again we have seen center relocations, especially with the weak LLC it has now will be disrupted by land tonight and most of the energy it to the NE, classic example of center relocation...


its not weak though.



Yes, the center is, most of the winds are removed from the center in the deeper convection
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#3903 Postby LAwxrgal » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:53 am

Well, intensity forecasting isn't an exact science. Who knows what shape this thing will be in once it crosses the Yucatan. So they're erring on the side of caution.
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#3904 Postby lrak » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:53 am

CalmBeforeStorm wrote:I think Dolly is in the process of relacting to the north in the convection and will miss much of the Yucatan thus enabling more strengthening.


how will this happen?
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Caribbean

#3905 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:54 am

Dolly just got a very deep blob over her center...black topped. If this goes just slightly north of forecast, CC, watch out!
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#3906 Postby Brent » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:54 am

deltadog03 wrote::uarrow: :uarrow: Conservative....BUT smart for now


Exactly, the NHC always goes smartly conservative when a storm first develops. I don't have much doubt that if it makes it off the Yucatan with good structure it won't become at least a hurricane.

and please remember intensity is very hard to predict.
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#3907 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:54 am

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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Caribbean

#3908 Postby lrak » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:54 am

Ivanhater wrote:
lrak wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:Time and time again we have seen center relocations, especially with the weak LLC it has now will be disrupted by land tonight and most of the energy it to the NE, classic example of center relocation...


its not weak though.



Yes, the center is, most of the winds are removed from the center in the deeper convection


have you looked at a satellite loop lately?
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#3909 Postby ColdFusion » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:55 am

MiamiensisWx wrote:I'm so tired of some people assuming that this may become a major hurricane. Intensity will depend on the structure as it enters the SW Gulf of Mexico.


Aren't you equally tired of people making statements like this about the storm?

MiamiensisWx wrote:
This one's done.

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#3910 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:55 am

lrak wrote:
CalmBeforeStorm wrote:I think Dolly is in the process of relacting to the north in the convection and will miss much of the Yucatan thus enabling more strengthening.


how will this happen?


its actually partly do to physics.
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#3911 Postby lrak » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:56 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
lrak wrote:
CalmBeforeStorm wrote:I think Dolly is in the process of relacting to the north in the convection and will miss much of the Yucatan thus enabling more strengthening.


how will this happen?


its actually partly do to physics.


im reading?
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#3912 Postby CalmBeforeStorm » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:56 am

lrak wrote:
CalmBeforeStorm wrote:I think Dolly is in the process of relacting to the north in the convection and will miss much of the Yucatan thus enabling more strengthening.


how will this happen?


If the center finds it's way into the deep convection to the north the same forecast track extrapolated to the north would miss or just go over the tip of the Yucatan.
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Caribbean

#3913 Postby Hyperstorm » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:56 am

Folks, there are too many unfounded speculations. NHC should be conservative since this is the first advisory being issued. For the sake of everything, we may not even have a well-defined LLC tonight. Tropics are very unpredictable. I suspect as we see the system hold together over the next 24 hours, the landfall intensity forecast will undecidedly increase.

Gulf SSTs 85*...
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#3914 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:57 am

lrak wrote:
lrak wrote:
CalmBeforeStorm wrote:I think Dolly is in the process of relacting to the north in the convection and will miss much of the Yucatan thus enabling more strengthening.


how will this happen?


its actually partly do to physics.


im reading?[/quote]


what?
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#3915 Postby MiamiensisWx » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:57 am

ColdFusion wrote:
MiamiensisWx wrote:I'm so tired of some people assuming that this may become a major hurricane. Intensity will depend on the structure as it enters the SW Gulf of Mexico.


Aren't you equally tired of people making statements like this about the storm?

MiamiensisWx wrote:
This one's done.


Detailed reasoning followed that one liner. I recognize that initial forecast busted, primarily because of uncertainties regarding the upper low's speed.

I agree with Hyperstorm.
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#3916 Postby Chacor » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:58 am

Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold= 26% is 2.1 times the sample mean(12.3%)
Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold= 16% is 2.0 times the sample mean( 7.8%)
Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold= 9% is 2.0 times the sample mean( 4.5%)
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#3917 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:59 am

Chacor wrote:Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold= 26% is 2.1 times the sample mean(12.3%)
Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold= 16% is 2.0 times the sample mean( 7.8%)
Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold= 9% is 2.0 times the sample mean( 4.5%)


those are old .. whats the link
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Re: ATL: TS Dolly in Western Caribbean

#3918 Postby Ivanhater » Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:59 am

lrak wrote:
have you looked at a satellite loop lately?


Lol..No of course not..most of the energy is to the NE and like many storms that hit the yucatan, they relocate..just a fact, not saying it WILL happen, but this is a classic setup for it 8-)
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#3919 Postby weatherguru18 » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:00 am

It would have to relocate a good ways north or take one heck of a jog to the nw to miss the yucatan. I'm not looking for that to happen.
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#3920 Postby Chacor » Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:01 am

Aric Dunn wrote:
Chacor wrote:Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold= 26% is 2.1 times the sample mean(12.3%)
Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold= 16% is 2.0 times the sample mean( 7.8%)
Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold= 9% is 2.0 times the sample mean( 4.5%)


those are old .. whats the link


That's the 12z run. Those are the most recent.
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