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#3961 Postby setxweathergal » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:31 pm

deltadog03 wrote:
jaxfladude wrote:
Vortex wrote:00z NAM shifts further North..Not sure if this is a result of the data entered from recon..Not liking this trend.

http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml


Please flame me if I am wrong but does that put the Keys and most of all, Key West, on the very worst part of the eyewall?
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Well, I know everything has gone west tonigth...It will change many more times...However, the NAM, yes I know not good in tropics, but not bad synoptically over the conus....That new data must see something downstream potentially. I would be interested to see if the GFS looks any different after this new data that has been put into the models.

I hope that it's the same thing that one of our local mets has been using to comfort us with as landing well to our east!!!
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3962 Postby Sanibel » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:31 pm

Eye blowing itself clear is probably a mild intensification phase just as it hits Turks Caicos.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3963 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:32 pm

Our local tv met is telling viewers there is hope from earlier today and yesterdaythat the new models and "cone" are favoring for Ike to pass us to the south and west . In my opinion it looks worse for LA then it has. Seems to be setting up for another Gustav type track. The chances for Ike to just keep moving west in the middle of September just don't seem to high. It does not have to be a strong front to come down just something weak like what passed through yesterday and Ike will be at our back door.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3964 Postby fasterdisaster » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:33 pm

MBryant wrote:Does anybody else see an irony of a Hurricane named Ike hitting Cuba?


It'd be better if it was named John.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3966 Postby mpic » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:34 pm

It's interesting that Hou Channel 13 did not even mention a possible NOLA strike...guessing he didn't want to be the one to start a panic. He did say, though, that the high that is sitting over us could move south/west and the high to our east could shift west putting us in a difficult scenario.
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#3967 Postby fasterdisaster » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:34 pm

He looks absolutely amazing in the last frame. It really looks like he's prepared to strengthen significantly.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3968 Postby jinftl » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:35 pm

The margin of error is so great that it can't be taken too literally....recall that south florida was in the center of the cone less than 48 hours ago. The cone will shift so many times in the coming days....time to keep an eye out for sure....not time to panic...as of 11pm, not even the Florida Keys are under a hurricane watch yet.

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Our local tv met is telling viewers there is hope from earlier today and yesterdaythat the new models and "cone" are favoring for Ike to pass us to the south and west . In my opinion it looks worse for LA then it has. Seems to be setting up for another Gustav type track. The chances for Ike to just keep moving west in the middle of September just don't seem to high. It does not have to be a strong front to come down just something weak like what passed through yesterday and Ike will be at our back door.
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Re: ATL IKE: Personal forecasts

#3969 Postby JonathanBelles » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:35 pm

The posts in this forum are NOT official forecast and should not be used as such. They are just the opinion of the poster and may or may not be backed by sound meteorological data. They are NOT endorsed by any professional institution or storm2k.org. For official information, please refer to the NHC and NWS products

Advisory 090608

Tropical Storm Hanna is near New York City. Category 4 Major Hurricane Ike nears the Turks and Caicos.

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Near New York City….Northwestern Atlantic….Tropical Storm Hanna. Hanna is rapidly moving to the northeast. Hanna is near New York City right now and will be near Boston tonight. As Hanna picks up ground speed, it will gain wind speed and lose tropical characteristics. Hanna will bring tropical storm force winds to all of the east coast of the US north of New York City tonight. Heavy rain will be affecting the east coast until it leaves land. By Sunday, Hanna will have left the US and its tropical characteristics, and by Monday Hanna will be out to sea. No graphic at this time.

Nearing the Turks and Caicos and Great Inagua Island…Western Atlantic….Category 4 Major Hurricane Ike. Ike quickly intensified today as it moved closer to the Bahamas. Ike has winds of about 135 mph, and is likely to continue strengthening tonight and tomorrow. Conditions are rapidly deteriorating in the Bahamas and in Hispaniola.

In the short term….A triplet of high Sea Surface Temperatures and Ocean Heat Content, and very low wind shear should allow Ike to maintain, and intensify itself into a very strong category 4 hurricane. Landfall in Cuba is about the only thing that will keep Ike’s intensity down. The landfall in Cuba, depending on when and where, could be as strong as 150mph. Cuba will be taking its second Major Hurricane hit in less than a week.

Storm surge will be very high in the surge prone areas of the Turks and Caicos, Bahamas, and in Cuba. Surge could be as high as 15-18’ with much higher waves. These waves will be felt as far as the Florida coast in the coming days, and these waves will cause a high rip current threat across the entire area.

Rain totals will also be very high, running at a minimum of 4” across the area with a maximum of 20” of rain in the mountainous areas, and in the areas where Ike is moving at its slowest. Flash-floods could occur in all of these areas, and chances are higher the mountainous areas.

A Hurricane Warning is in effect from the Turks and Caicos, and the central and lower Bahamas, to the eastern third of Cuba. Those in this area should have all preparations finished to should be rushing them to completion as conditions are, or will be rapidly deteriorating with hurricane force winds likely and very heavy rains likely.

A Tropical Storm Warning is in effect on the northern coast of Hispaniola. Those in this area will be experiencing tropical storm force winds and more heavy rain…and likely more floods in areas affected by numerous tropical cyclones of the recent past.

A Hurricane Watch is in effect in east central Cuba on both the north and southern coast. Those in this area should be expecting hurricane force winds in 36-48 hours. Any preparations need to be finished immediately.

In the long run…The Florida Keys have ordered mandatory evacuations of all non-residents. Further evacuations may be issued in the coming days as Ike nears on the eastern and central gulf coast. If an evacuation order is issued for your area, you MUST evacuate. Local officials have figured that your life is at risk. If your reasoning is that Gustav did not hit as hard or was as bad as officials thought, or that it was a hassle to leave…and you are not going to leave because of that, you are making a life threatening decision. All storms are different, and will bring different conditions. Do not make yourself vulnerable.

On to the Track….Ike ‘s track will be very tricky in the days to come. The reason for this is that it relies on a number of factors including a weakness in a ridge and a trough coming in from the northwest. For this reason I am not going to issue a single track, but a pair of scenarios. In either case, Ike will be traversing Cuba.

Scenario #1. Ike stays quick and south. If Ike continues on a brisk rate, it has a better chance of making it further west and further north in the long run. In this case, it would be another close call for New Orleans.

Scenario #2. Ike slows down and north. If Ike slows down, it has a better chance of being picked up by the trough and taken to the northeast in the Gulf of Mexico. In this case, it would be a Florida storm in some case.

Take the area between the two scenarios as my forecast. You may ask why I am so far right, and that is because I do not believe the trough is being picked up enough by the models, and I also believe there may be a pendulum effect within the models to come.

Fact789-Jonathan

**Any and all questions and comments are encouraged and appreciated**
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3970 Postby tolakram » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:36 pm

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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3971 Postby baitism » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:36 pm

fasterdisaster wrote:
MBryant wrote:Does anybody else see an irony of a Hurricane named Ike hitting Cuba?


It'd be better if it was named John.


Or Gustav...
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#3972 Postby fasterdisaster » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:37 pm

Could someone please tell me how one posts still images from a floater?
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3973 Postby Stormcenter » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:38 pm

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Our local tv met is telling viewers there is hope from earlier today and yesterdaythat the new models and "cone" are favoring for Ike to pass us to the south and west . In my opinion it looks worse for LA then it has. Seems to be setting up for another Gustav type track. The chances for Ike to just keep moving west in the middle of September just don't seem to high. It does not have to be a strong front to come down just something weak like what passed through yesterday and Ike will be at our back door.



How quickly we forget. Can you say Hurricane Rita?
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3974 Postby Sabanic » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:39 pm

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Our local tv met is telling viewers there is hope from earlier today and yesterdaythat the new models and "cone" are favoring for Ike to pass us to the south and west . In my opinion it looks worse for LA then it has. Seems to be setting up for another Gustav type track. The chances for Ike to just keep moving west in the middle of September just don't seem to high. It does not have to be a strong front to come down just something weak like what passed through yesterday and Ike will be at our back door.


Way too far out for your local met to make any statement like that. Way too far out in the game for that type of statement.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3975 Postby Brent » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:39 pm

Hurricanewatcher2007 wrote:The eye is now almost cleared out. I expect it to be fully cleared with in the next couple of hours prob. sooner rather then later!

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:eek: :eek: :eek:

Poor Turks and Caicos.
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#3976 Postby Matt-hurricanewatcher » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:40 pm

fasterdisaster wrote:He looks absolutely amazing in the last frame. It really looks like he's prepared to strengthen significantly.



I'm expecting 145 mph with pressure near 940-942 millibars. I would of loved to have recon into this thing when it had that soild CDO of Red a few nights ago.
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#3977 Postby Hockey007 » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:41 pm

fasterdisaster wrote:Could someone please tell me how one posts still images from a floater?

For Firefox (idk about IE or Opera) just right-click the image and click copy image location. and then use that in the img tags or url tags.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3978 Postby Hurricanewatcher2007 » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:41 pm

The next recon flight is now on its way to Ike
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#3979 Postby Windy » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:42 pm

Man, if Ike misses Cuba landfall by even a smidge to the south, he's really going to feel those mountains.

Who would have thought a stay in GITMO could have been any less appealing?
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#3980 Postby TampaFl » Sat Sep 06, 2008 10:45 pm

Not sure how it can go into the Central GOM with this steering flow. I know it will change but it will have to be a large change in this steering flow to verify, IMHO. Thoughts & comments welcomed.

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