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#41 Postby RattleMan » Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:41 pm

New JTWC; up to 85kt in 72h.

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WTIO31 PGTW 272100
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVPACMETOCCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE 01B WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TROPICAL CYCLONE 01B WARNING NR 002
01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHIO
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
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WARNING POSITION:
271800Z --- NEAR 12.5N 85.4E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 315 DEGREES AT 06 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 060 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 040 KT, GUSTS 050 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 045 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
045 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
045 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
REPEAT POSIT: 12.5N 85.4E
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
280600Z --- 12.9N 85.3E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 050 KT, GUSTS 065 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
060 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 015 DEG/ 02 KTS
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24 HRS, VALID AT:
281800Z --- 13.3N 85.4E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 060 KT, GUSTS 075 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 040 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
040 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 080 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
080 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
080 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
080 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 035 DEG/ 02 KTS
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36 HRS, VALID AT:
290600Z --- 13.7N 85.7E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 070 KT, GUSTS 085 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 050 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
050 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 100 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
100 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
100 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
100 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 045 DEG/ 05 KTS
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EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
291800Z --- 14.4N 86.4E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 075 KT, GUSTS 090 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 055 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
055 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 110 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
120 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
100 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 045 DEG/ 06 KTS
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72 HRS, VALID AT:
301800Z --- 16.1N 88.3E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 085 KT, GUSTS 105 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 030 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 060 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
055 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 120 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
130 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
120 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
110 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
---
REMARKS:
272100Z POSITION NEAR 12.6N 85.4E.
TROPICAL CYCLONE (TC) 01B, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 305 NM EAST OF
MADRAS, INDIA, HAS TRACKED NORTHWEST AT 06 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX
HOURS. CURRENT POSITION IS BASED ON RECENT INFRARED SATELLITE FIXES
AND A 271610Z AMSU IMAGE. CURRENT INTENSITY IS BASED ON DVORAK
ESTIMATES RANGING FROM 35 TO 45 KNOTS. TC 01B IS CURRENTLY BEING
STEERED GENERALLY WESTWARD BY THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE TO THE NORTH.
OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS, THE STORM WILL SLOW AND BECOME QUASI-
STATIONARY AS A NEAR-EQUATORIAL RIDGE EXERTS A COMPETING STEERING
INFLUENCE. AFTER TAU 36, THE NEAR-EQUATORIAL RIDGE WILL BECOME THE
PRIMARY STEERING INFLUENCE AND CAUSE TC 01B TO TRACK NORTHEASTWARD.
THROUGHOUT THE FORECAST PERIOD, TC 01B WILL INCREASE IN INTENSITY
DUE TO FAVORABLE OCEAN HEAT CONTENT, LOW VERTICAL WIND SHEAR, AND
GOOD POLEWARD OUTFLOW. MAXIMUM SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 271800Z
IS 12 FEET. NEXT WARNINGS AT 280300Z, 280900Z, 281500Z AND 282100Z.
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Re: Bay of Bengal: Deep Depression (TC 01B)

#42 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Apr 27, 2008 4:43 pm

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Re: Bay of Bengal: Deep Depression (TC 01B)

#43 Postby P.K. » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:02 pm

BOB 01/2008/04 Dated: 28th April, 2008

Sub: Deep Depression over southeast and adjoining Southwest Bay of Bengal.

The deep depression over southeast and adjoining southwest Bay of Bengal moved northwestwards and lay centred at 2330 hours IST of today, the 27th April 2008 over southeast and adjoining southwest Bay of Bengal near lat. 12.5 deg N and long. 86.0 deg E, about 600 km east-southeast of Chennai. The system is likely to intensify further and move initially in a northwesterly direction.


Under its influence, rain/thundershower is likely at many places with isolated heavy falls over Andaman & Nicobar Islands during next 48 hours.


Sea condition is very rough around the system centre
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#44 Postby KWT » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:09 pm

Very impressive looking system with that very deep convection near the center, certainly wouldn't surprise me if it does reach the 85kts progged by JTWC, over some very high heat content as well.
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Re: Bay of Bengal: Deep Depression (TC 01B)

#45 Postby zaqxsw75050 » Sun Apr 27, 2008 5:53 pm

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dumb question, could that be an eye trying to form or it is just a hole?
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#46 Postby Cyclenall » Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:24 pm

The eye is forming right now on those images, it's not a hole. I say 55-60 knots now 1-min winds.

The IMD will not notice this and call it a depression still
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Re: Bay of Bengal: Deep Depression (TC 01B)

#47 Postby cycloneye » Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:32 pm

What will be the name?
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Re: Bay of Bengal: Deep Depression (TC 01B)

#48 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Apr 27, 2008 6:48 pm

cycloneye wrote:What will be the name?


These are the next four names of the list of North Indian Ocean storm names. The names will be used sequentially and once only.

Nargis (unused)
Abe (unused)
Khai-Muk (unused)
Nisha (unused)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_North ... one_season
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Re: Bay of Bengal: Deep Depression (TC 01B)

#49 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:14 pm

In case you're unfamiliar with the IMD cyclone scale:

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Tropical Cyclone
Strength Classification [1]
Category Wind speed (3-min)
 Knots (km/h)

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Depression ≤27
(≤51)
Deep Depression 28–33
(52–61)
Cyclonic Storm 34–47
(62–87)
Severe Cyclonic
Storm 48–63
(88–117)
Very Severe
Cyclonic Storm 64–119
(118–221)
Super Cyclonic Storm ≥120
(≥222)


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This one should be a severe cyclone storm.
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#50 Postby Chacor » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:24 pm

That's arguable. Probably high-end cyclonic storm/low-end SCS. JMA would probably have this as a high-end TS.
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#51 Postby senorpepr » Sun Apr 27, 2008 7:57 pm

18Z models still indicate a northeastward motion, with eventual landfall (>=T+120hr) along Myanmar.

The intensity guidance isn't as clear-cut. Personally, I think JTWC's is reasonable. The JUKI is the weaker of the models, dissipating the system within 3 days. GFNI remains the stronger of the models, bringing 01B to 110KT by day 5. The rest of the models somewhere in between.
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Re: Bay of Bengal: Deep Depression (TC 01B)

#52 Postby zaqxsw75050 » Sun Apr 27, 2008 8:59 pm

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50 kts, 985mb according to NRL.
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#53 Postby senorpepr » Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:52 pm

Albeit old, here's a nice MODIS image from the Terra satellite: 27/0500Z

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#54 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Apr 27, 2008 9:59 pm

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NRL: 55 knots
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Re: Bay of Bengal: Deep Depression (TC 01B)

#55 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:04 pm

28/0230 UTC 12.9N 85.3E T3.5/3.5 01B -- Bay of Bengal

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WTIO31 PGTW 280300
MSGID/GENADMIN/NAVPACMETOCCEN PEARL HARBOR HI/JTWC//
SUBJ/TROPICAL CYCLONE 01B WARNING//
RMKS/
1. TROPICAL CYCLONE 01B WARNING NR 003
01 ACTIVE TROPICAL CYCLONE IN NORTHIO
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS BASED ON ONE-MINUTE AVERAGE
---
WARNING POSITION:
280000Z --- NEAR 12.8N 85.5E
MOVEMENT PAST SIX HOURS - 340 DEGREES AT 03 KTS
POSITION ACCURATE TO WITHIN 060 NM
POSITION BASED ON CENTER LOCATED BY SATELLITE
PRESENT WIND DISTRIBUTION:
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 055 KT, GUSTS 070 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 030 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 070 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
070 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
REPEAT POSIT: 12.8N 85.5E
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FORECASTS:
12 HRS, VALID AT:
281200Z --- 13.1N 85.6E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 065 KT, GUSTS 080 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 040 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
040 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
040 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 090 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
090 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
090 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
090 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 24 HR POSIT: 020 DEG/ 02 KTS
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24 HRS, VALID AT:
290000Z --- 13.4N 85.7E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 075 KT, GUSTS 090 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 050 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
050 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
050 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 110 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
110 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
110 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 36 HR POSIT: 040 DEG/ 03 KTS
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36 HRS, VALID AT:
291200Z --- 13.9N 86.1E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 085 KT, GUSTS 105 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 025 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
025 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
025 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 055 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
060 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
055 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
055 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 120 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
130 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
120 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
110 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 48 HR POSIT: 045 DEG/ 06 KTS
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EXTENDED OUTLOOK:
48 HRS, VALID AT:
300000Z --- 14.7N 86.9E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 095 KT, GUSTS 115 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 030 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
030 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
030 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 065 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
065 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
065 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 140 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
155 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
140 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
125 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
VECTOR TO 72 HR POSIT: 050 DEG/ 06 KTS
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72 HRS, VALID AT:
010000Z --- 16.1N 88.7E
MAX SUSTAINED WINDS - 110 KT, GUSTS 135 KT
WIND RADII VALID OVER OPEN WATER ONLY
RADIUS OF 064 KT WINDS - 035 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
035 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
035 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 050 KT WINDS - 070 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
075 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
070 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
070 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
RADIUS OF 034 KT WINDS - 155 NM NORTHEAST QUADRANT
170 NM SOUTHEAST QUADRANT
155 NM SOUTHWEST QUADRANT
140 NM NORTHWEST QUADRANT
---
REMARKS:
280300Z POSITION NEAR 12.9N 85.5E.
TROPICAL CYCLONE (TC) 01B, LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 305 NM EAST OF
MADRAS, INDIA, HAS TRACKED NORTH AT 03 KNOTS OVER THE PAST SIX
HOURS. CURRENT POSITION IS BASED ON RECENT INFRARED SATELLITE FIXES
AND A 272331Z SSMIS IMAGE. CURRENT INTENSITY IS BASED ON DVORAK
INTENSITY ESTIMATES RANGING FROM 45 TO 55 KNOTS. TC 01B HAS SLOWED
OVER THE PAST SIX HOURS AND IS ENTERING A COMPETING STEERING
ENVIRONMENT BETWEEN THE SUBTROPICAL RIDGE TO THE NORTHWEST AND
THE NEAR-EQUATORIAL RIDGE TO THE SOUTHEAST. THE STORM WILL BECOME
QUASI-STATIONARY OVER THE NEXT 24 HOURS. FROM TAU 36, THE NEAR-
EQUATORIAL RIDGE WILL BECOME THE PRIMARY STEERING INFLUENCE AND
CAUSE TC 01B TO TRACK NORTHEASTWARD. THE STORM WILL INCREASE IN
INTENSITY THROUGHOUT THE FORECAST PERIOD DUE TO FAVORABLE OCEAN HEAT
CONTENT, LOW VERTICAL WIND SHEAR, AND GOOD POLEWARD OUTFLOW.
FORECAST INTENSITIES HAVE BEEN INCREASED IN ACCORDANCE WITH STRONGER
TAU 00 INTENSITY AND THE LATEST NUMERICAL GUIDANCE. MAXIMUM
SIGNIFICANT WAVE HEIGHT AT 280000Z IS 14 FEET. NEXT WARNINGS AT
280900Z, 281500Z, 282100Z AND 290300Z.//
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Re: Bay of Bengal: Deep Depression (TC 01B)

#56 Postby Chacor » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:09 pm

Someone archive those images, it's not often you get a heart-shaped (!) tropical storm!
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#57 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:12 pm

and we have yet ANOTHER TC in the BOB with a closed eye that the clowns at the Incompetent Meteorological Department (and calling them Incompetent is giving them a compliment) has as a TD.

I would advise everyone in the area to not even listen to ANYTHING coming from the IMD. Listening to them will place your life in danger
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#58 Postby Chacor » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:15 pm

They haven't issued their 00z warning yet. It didn't have a closed eye at 18z.
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#59 Postby Derek Ortt » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:25 pm

They did not issue a 0Z update yet?

It is 330Z now!
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#60 Postby Cyclenall » Sun Apr 27, 2008 10:32 pm

It's so massive that when it tries to wrap it's own convection around the LLC, it can't because it's so thick and makes a U-shape and then breaks into deep convective blobs within the developing TC.
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