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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4581 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:35 pm

wxman57 wrote:2hr movement 299 deg. at 11.5 kts. Probably just a temporary jog. It's always more noticeable near land.


can you post the garp image please with the motion over the past 2 hours
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#4582 Postby jusforsean » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:35 pm

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t4/loop-ft.html[/quote]

Heres my scientific method lol i put my mouse pointer in the eye before the frame starts as sort of a starting point then you can see where the eye ends up n nw w or sw it seems to help me now of course this doesnt take care of the is it a wobble argument here i did see someone post a dot chart of the actual coordantes could someone post that again that was really informative tks :P
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4583 Postby jinftl » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:35 pm

At this rate, Ike might stay in the white 3-day cone....but seriously...nothing yet is out of line with the forecast cone....maybe the question should be did anyone give more than passing consideration to a track on the right side of the cone taking place?

Now I see why Andros is under a watch...a right side of cone track would justify it.



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#4584 Postby cheezyWXguy » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:37 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:
KWT wrote:Does Ike have a double eyewall on recon or not crazy?



not a closed one .. there was some evidence of a outer wind maxima on the outbound in the western quad but nothing in the east quad

I think this is what is going to make ike so large in the GOM.
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#4585 Postby Just Joshing You » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:37 pm

If it makes landfall before the EWRC starts, will it stop and reverse?
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4586 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:37 pm

3:25 PM EDT:

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#4587 Postby Vortex » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:39 pm

I just did a 2.5 hour with garp and got a 300 heading :eek:
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4588 Postby Canelaw99 » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:39 pm

jinftl wrote:At this rate, Ike might stay in the white 3-day cone....but seriously...nothing yet is out of line with the forecast cone....maybe the question should be did anyone give more than passing consideration to a track on the right side of the cone taking place?

Now I see why Andros is under a watch...a right side of cone track would justify it.



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The CBS met here in S FL came on at 2 (I think it was) and was giving a recap of the 2 possible scenarios. He said that the most likely of the 3 is either the middle of the cone, or the right side of it. The right side would obviously be the worst for the Keys and the mainland and could bring hurricane gusts to Dade County. So, will be interesting to see what happens through this afternoon/evening with Ike's path....
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4589 Postby KWT » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:40 pm

cycloneye wrote:
wxman57 wrote:2hr movement 299 deg. at 11.5 kts. Probably just a temporary jog. It's always more noticeable near land.


WOW! WNW to NW.


Just like I said, more WNW but between WNW and NW...

As wxman57 said motion probably won't last much longer but every little big longer does make a difference for somewhere upstream in Cuba.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4590 Postby Stratusxpeye » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:40 pm

Anyone heard anything from Mattew town? I know the Morton Salt Company’s main facility is located there and a few other thing's. Looks like the eye raked through the middle of that poor island.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4591 Postby bahamaswx » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:42 pm

jinftl wrote:Now I see why Andros is under a watch...a right side of cone track would justify it.


I've never seen a watch issued for a single island before... usually we would issue a watch/warning for the entire northern Bahamas. A watch for Andros alone is certainly the wiser choice, but it's odd nevertheless.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4592 Postby Sanibel » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:42 pm

Need to confirm turn with Cuban radar. Could be island slot quirk. But could also be island slot quirk that allows change of track.
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4593 Postby TampaFl » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:42 pm

Cuban radar shows more w to wnw movement:


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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4594 Postby HURRICANELONNY » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:42 pm

Oh No! The wobbles are back. I think someone said it will just take longer to hit Cuba. Meaning stronger,longer. Remember you can't go down the center of the cone. :roll:
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4595 Postby cycloneye » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:44 pm

TampaFl wrote:Cuban radar shows more wnw to nw movement:


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Radar confirms WNW.
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#4596 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:44 pm

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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4597 Postby jinftl » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:45 pm

A really eye-opening scenario...not seeing this evolve yet....would be a landfall in the middle keys...it is in the cone...there is no way that mainland south florida would be prepared for that...that would mean hurricane conditions at least in south dade. all preps as far as i can tell that were being made for ike have stopped....the overall sentiment is that we are in the clear....once we were taken out of forecast cone, it was deemed over....tv mets have tried to keep the 'watchful eye' line...but prob just local storm2kers who are doing that.

ok, got the rant out...that said....not time to pull the alarm for that either


Canelaw99 wrote:
jinftl wrote:At this rate, Ike might stay in the white 3-day cone....but seriously...nothing yet is out of line with the forecast cone....maybe the question should be did anyone give more than passing consideration to a track on the right side of the cone taking place?

Now I see why Andros is under a watch...a right side of cone track would justify it.



Image


The CBS met here in S FL came on at 2 (I think it was) and was giving a recap of the 2 possible scenarios. He said that the most likely of the 3 is either the middle of the cone, or the right side of it. The right side would obviously be the worst for the Keys and the mainland and could bring hurricane gusts to Dade County. So, will be interesting to see what happens through this afternoon/evening with Ike's path....
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4598 Postby Aric Dunn » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:45 pm

HURRICANELONNY wrote:Oh No! The wobbles are back. I think someone said it will just take longer to hit Cuba. Meaning stronger,longer. Remember you can't go down the center of the cone. :roll:


if this motion does continue .. there will be plenty of clearance ... with cuba and would put the keys in hurricane force winds
and south florida in the TS
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Re: ATL IKE: Category 4 - Discussion

#4599 Postby Myersgirl » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:46 pm

Ike will have to head WSW to hit that next NHC

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t4/loop-avn.htmlplot
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#4600 Postby Vortex » Sun Sep 07, 2008 2:46 pm

If your along the se coast of florida beaches step outside and look to the east and southeast and there is an amazing cloud presentation associated with what appears to be the very very outer part of Ike's circulation..Simply beautiful to look at right now!
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