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Re: ATL INVEST 93L: Discussion

#61 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:19 pm

JB weighed in on this in his video. See also the JB homebrew thread.

This disturbance will, per JB, travel Northwest, and add energy to the area of disturbed weather with the old front and strong East winds beneath the massive surface high over the Northeast, and give him the Carolina hit he needs, so that Carolina pulls ahead of Texas, as per the preseason prediction.


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Re: ATL INVEST 93L: Discussion

#62 Postby HurricaneFreak » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:25 pm

An offical code orange on the nhc on invest 93 and they said shear will be conducive in the next few days for development
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Re: ATL INVEST 93L: Discussion

#63 Postby HurricaneFreak » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:32 pm

Oh no is this gona be another Wilma for florida?or chrley cause this trough can leave early right or will it stalll over texas?then that means it could turn more towards florida!
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Re: ATL INVEST 93L: Discussion

#64 Postby Gustywind » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:40 pm

HurricaneFreak wrote:Oh no is this gona be another Wilma for florida?or chrley cause this trough can leave early right or will it stalll over texas?then that means it could turn more towards florida!

Oh no, keep cool you're far away from any threat for the moment, you have time for that if something forms first , whereas we're a bit more concerned us in the islands, don't forget us please :) :wink:.
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#65 Postby Rainband » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:42 pm

Listen to what WXman57 says. I like his prediction.
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Re: ATL INVEST 93L: Discussion

#66 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:50 pm

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Re: ATL INVEST 93L: Discussion

#67 Postby Brent » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:51 pm

Not impressed with this either.
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#68 Postby Cyclenall » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:56 pm

It will probably develop eventually despite what people think right now. It's not like it's June and an El Nino.
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Re: ATL INVEST 93L: Discussion

#69 Postby HUC » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:58 pm

Heavy rains right now in the southern part of my island;no thunder ,winds normal,barometer also. So a disturbance not "yet "? organised at this time...Wait and see...But no much movement now for the convection which is displaced NE of the apparent circulation wich appears for me well to the west of St Lucia...
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#70 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Sep 19, 2008 1:59 pm

Loop: http://rammb.cira.colostate.edu/product ... 152115.GIF

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Circulation easily visible in the loop.
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#71 Postby gatorcane » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:00 pm

bvigal wrote:
cycloneye wrote:Hmmm,they are seeing something that many of us dont.They now have it at orange.
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Luis, what that tells me is that National Hurricane Center believes that shear is going to reduce sometime in the next 48hrs, allowing a better chance for development.


Cycloneye, I have been on the development train with this one.....(look back at my posts)

things are proceeding as expected....I expected activity after about Sept 20th and I expected this area to make a run at development.
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#72 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:01 pm

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#73 Postby gatorcane » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:14 pm

:uarrow:

I'm surprised Accuweather doesn't have it hitting South Florida... :lol:
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#74 Postby Ed Mahmoud » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:17 pm

gatorcane wrote: :uarrow:

I'm surprised Accuweather doesn't have it hitting South Florida... :lol:



The Carolinas need another hit. Well, they may not agree, but the Carolinas/Northeast are JB's #1 target in his preseason landfall predictions. Texas/Louisiana were supposed to be #2
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Re: ATL INVEST 93L: Discussion

#75 Postby HUC » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:25 pm

http://www.stormpulse.com/ This link give the circulation 14,7° N 62,8°W...
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Re: ATL INVEST 93L: Discussion

#76 Postby Frank2 » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:28 pm

Gatorcane,

I agree - that AW is somethin' else, and, that's not a compliment, either...

Fortunately, there's is little down there at this time, and, conditions are not exactly favorable, even though the NHC alludes that it might become "more conducive", so, while the NHC might indicate a 20%-50% chance, it seems more like 25%...

Of course the models will say anything - even if the initialized system is little more than one shower, so, they need to be read with a big grain of salt, for sure...

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#77 Postby jlauderdal » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:35 pm

gatorcane wrote::uarrow:

I'm surprised Accuweather doesn't have it hitting South Florida... :lol:


well based on all of those arrows they have its a pretty good bet they will be right.
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Re: ATL INVEST 93L: Discussion

#78 Postby Gustywind » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:36 pm

HUC wrote:Heavy rains right now in the southern part of my island;no thunder ,winds normal,barometer also. So a disturbance not "yet "? organised at this time...Wait and see...But no much movement now for the convection which is displaced NE of the apparent circulation wich appears for me well to the west of St Lucia...


Hi Huc glad to see you :) , i have read all your replies, as usual pretty pertinent, it's the same weather in Baie Mahault with less shower activity, but grey, moist and sad...
Convection seems to refire a bit this afternoon, especially to the south near you and east of Marie-Galante with my untrained eyes! :cheesy: . Looking behind, another little pertubed area should bring another round of showers and tstorms maybe, unstelled conditions for the next 72H? Bear watching is an euphemisma given the multiple possible scenarios, hope we should not experience something to worse, only water and no more, but wait and see...
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#79 Postby Gustywind » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:38 pm

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Re: ATL INVEST 93L: Discussion

#80 Postby cycloneye » Fri Sep 19, 2008 2:54 pm

We here can expect a wet weekend if all pans out as forecast.

WEATHER SUMMARY FOR PUERTO RICO
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
348 PM AST FRI SEP 19 2008

PARTLY CLOUDY SKIES PREVAILED ACROSS PUERTO RICO...CULEBRA...AND
VIEQUES THIS AFTERNOON. SCATTERED SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS
DEVELOPED ACROSS THE SOUTH AND SOUTHWEST SECTIONS OF PUERTO RICO.
THIS ACTIVITY WAS PRODUCING HEAVY RAIN ACROSS YAUCO...CABO ROJO...AND
SABANA GRANDE. AN URBAN AND SMALL STREAM FLOOD ADVISORY WAS ISSUED FOR
THESE AREAS. THE MAXIMUM TEMPERATURES IN SOME CITIES IN PUERTO
RICO WERE AS FOLLOWS...PONCE 91 DEGREES...DEGREES...MAYAGUEZ 91
DEGREES...AND IN SAN JUAN IT WAS 89 DEGREES. WINDS WERE MAINLY FROM
THE EAST NORTHEAST AT 10 TO 15 MPH EXCEPT FOR SEA BREEZE
VARIATIONS AT COASTAL LOCATIONS.

AN AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER ASSOCIATED WITH A TROPICAL WAVE
CROSSING THE LESSER ANTILLES AND ENTERING THE EASTERN CARIBBEAN
THIS AFTERNOON..IS PRODUCING CONSIDERABLE CLOUDINESS...SHOWERS
AND THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE LEEWARD AND WINDWARD ISLANDS. SOME
ADDITIONAL ORGANIZATION OF THIS SYSTEM IS POSSIBLE OVER THE NEXT
COUPLE OF DAYS AS IT MOVES SLOWLY ACROSS THE EASTERN CARIBBEAN
SEA. THIS FEATURE WILL COMBINE WITH FAVORABLE UPPER LEVEL
CONDITIONS...TO PRODUCE SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WITH LOCALLY
GUSTY WINDS ACROSS THE LOCAL ISLANDS SATURDAY AND SUNDAY. A WET
WEATHER PATTERN IS FORECAST TO PREVAIL ACROSS THE REGION UNTIL AT
LEAST SUNDAY.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/productview.php ... &version=0


AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
400 PM AST FRI SEP 19 2008

.DISCUSSION...AN AREA OF DISTURBED WEATHER ASSOCIATED WITH A
TROPICAL WAVE...LOCATED OVER THE SOUTHEAST CARIBBEAN AND
EXTENDING EAST ACROSS THE LESSER ANTILLES LATE THIS AFTERNOON...
WILL CONTINUE MOVING SLOWLY WEST NORTHWEST TONIGHT THROUGH THE
UPCOMING WEEKEND...PASSING ACROSS OR JUST SOUTH OF THE LOCAL AREA
LATE SATURDAY THROUGH SUNDAY. ALTHOUGH THE TIMING HAS BEEN PUSHED
BACK SLIGHTLY...WE STILL EXPECT THAT THIS FEATURE AND ITS
ASSOCIATED MOISTURE WILL COMBINE WITH FAVORABLE UPPER LEVEL
CONDITIONS...TONIGHT THROUGH AT LEAST SATURDAY NIGHT OR SUNDAY...TO
PRODUCE INCREASING SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS WITH LOCALLY GUSTY
WINDS ACROSS THE LOCAL ISLANDS. BASED ON LATEST MODEL PROJECTIONS...
IT STILL APPEARS THAT DEEP TROPICAL MOISTURE WILL BE ADVECTED
INTO/ACROSS THE LOCAL ISLANDS LATE TONIGHT/EARLY SATURDAY THROUGH
AT LEAST SATURDAY NIGHT OR SUNDAY...AS SYSTEM MOVES SLOWLY WEST
NORTHWEST. INITIALLY HOSTILE UPPER LEVEL WINDS (FOR DEVELOPMENT)
MAY GRADUALLY BECOME MORE FAVORABLE OVER THE NEXT DAY OR SO AND WE
WILL STILL NEED TO WATCH THIS SYSTEM CLOSELY. IRRESPECTIVE OF ANY
DEVELOPMENT...THE COMBINATION OF AFOREMENTIONED SLOW MOVING
DISTURBANCE...DEEP TROPICAL MOISTURE...INCREASINGLY FAVORABLE
UPPER LEVEL CONDITIONS AND LOCAL EFFECTS SHOULD RESULT IN AN
EXTENDED PERIOD OF UNSETTLED WEATHER...WITH SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF
CLOUDINESS...SHOWERS AND THUNDERSTORMS ACROSS THE FA.

IN ADDITION...THIS SYSTEM STILL HAS THE POTENTIAL TO PRODUCE AT
LEAST AREAS OF HEAVY RAINFALL ACROSS THE LOCAL ISLANDS WHICH COULD
IN TURN RESULT IN FLASH AND/OR RIVER FLOODING. THUS...ALL LOCAL
RESIDENTS AND VISITORS SHOULD CONTINUE TO CLOSELY MONITOR THIS
SYSTEM DURING THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS. IN ADDITION...PEOPLE ARE
REMINDED THAT IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE RAINING IN YOUR EXACT
LOCATION FOR DANGEROUS WATER SURGES TO OCCUR IN LOCAL RIVERS AND
STREAMS. PLEASE USE EXTRA CAUTION IF VENTURING INTO ANY LOCAL
RIVERS OR STREAMS DURING THE NEXT FEW DAYS.

http://www.srh.noaa.gov/fwd/productview ... &version=0
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