ATL: Tropical Depression Dolly

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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7941 Postby Scorpion » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:17 pm

MiamiensisWx wrote:I apologize if this is inappropriate, but I believe the NHC should set the upcoming landfall intensity at ~80 kt. Not only is it supported by data, but it is also important to assume that some members of the general public may believe they experienced a stronger TC if the Cat 2 status is maintained for the landfall intensity. Most people do not adhere to these unnamed "members", but there are always people who experience the outer fringes of a TC and believe that they experience stronger winds than reality. They may take advantage of Lixion Avila's rationally conservative nature and say, "I went through a Cat 2 and it wasn't so bad!"

I can see some "dangers" here...


I agree. They will probably adjust it for best track.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7942 Postby vbhoutex » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:19 pm

Watching coverage from SPI here in Houston on Channel 11. They registered a wind gust to 115mph with sustained at 90 mph on their anemometer in the last few minutes. They have had to start using phones to report since the wind was trying to tear the satellite dish off their truck. I don't know how well calibrated that anemometer is, but my guess is it is since this is the station Dr. Neil Frank is still consulting for even though he has retired.
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#7943 Postby Squarethecircle » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:21 pm

I think that they could probably support either 85 knots or 80 knots (mostly the latter) with the data they have, mostly depending on whether or not they extrapolate with it. But the problem would be, would they want to forecast 80 knots when it just might be 85?
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#7944 Postby HarlequinBoy » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:23 pm

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
NORTH-CENTRAL SAN PATRICIO COUNTY IN SOUTH TEXAS

* UNTIL 1245 PM CDT

* AT 1217 PM CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED
A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO 9 MILES
NORTHEAST OF TAFT...MOVING WEST AT 34 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
TAFT BY 1230 PM CDT...
SINTON BY 1240 PM CDT...
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#7945 Postby HarlequinBoy » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:23 pm

1220 PM HURRICANE SOUTH PADRE ISLAND 26.08N 97.18W
07/23/2008 CAMERON TX TRAINED SPOTTER

SHIP CAPTAIN HAD ESTIMATED WIND GUST OF 100 MPH.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7946 Postby vbhoutex » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:24 pm

Scorpion wrote:
MiamiensisWx wrote:I apologize if this is inappropriate, but I believe the NHC should set the upcoming landfall intensity at ~80 kt. Not only is it supported by data, but it is also important to assume that some members of the general public may believe they experienced a stronger TC if the Cat 2 status is maintained for the landfall intensity. Most people do not adhere to these unnamed "members", but there are always people who experience the outer fringes of a TC and believe that they experience stronger winds than reality. They may take advantage of Lixion Avila's rationally conservative nature and say, "I went through a Cat 2 and it wasn't so bad!"

I can see some "dangers" here...


I agree. They will probably adjust it for best track.


The problem with what you are saying is that they have to report it as the highest that was found/obtained at landfall, not what is best for the public to see so they will realize they didn't get the worst part of a storm. We here-weather weenies all!!!-understand the vagaries of a tropical cyclone compared to the general public and we are not tied down by parameters that make NHC report for the general good of the overall populace vs explaining to them that only a few places actually experienced the highest winds.
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#7947 Postby HurricaneHunter914 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:25 pm

Dolly seems to be leaving behind another "tail" in the middle of the GOM.
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/gmex/loop-avn.html
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#7948 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:25 pm

Ready or not here she comes....

http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?prod ... o&loop=yes

30 mins or so...
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7949 Postby littlevince » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:25 pm

A better link (full screen) to Fox video stream:

http://foxnews-stream4.wm.llnwd.net/foxnews_stream4
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#7950 Postby HarlequinBoy » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:27 pm

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN CORPUS CHRISTI HAS ISSUED A

* TORNADO WARNING FOR...
SOUTHERN ARANSAS COUNTY IN SOUTH TEXAS
SOUTH CENTRAL REFUGIO COUNTY IN SOUTH TEXAS

* UNTIL 1230 PM CDT

* AT NOON CDT...NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE DOPPLER RADAR INDICATED
A SEVERE THUNDERSTORM CAPABLE OF PRODUCING A TORNADO JUST SOUTH
OF NEAR HOLIDAY BEACH...OR ABOUT 6 MILES NORTHEAST OF
ROCKPORT...MOVING WEST AT 32 MPH.

* THE TORNADO WILL BE NEAR...
ROCKPORT...FULTON BY 1210 PM CDT...
BAYSIDE BY 1230 PM CDT...
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7951 Postby Tireman4 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:29 pm

littlevince wrote:A better link (full screen) to Fox video stream:

http://foxnews-stream4.wm.llnwd.net/foxnews_stream4




Mine is purple. The screen is purple. LOL
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7952 Postby vbhoutex » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:29 pm

vbhoutex wrote:Watching coverage from SPI here in Houston on Channel 11. They registered a wind gust to 115mph with sustained at 90 mph on their anemometer in the last few minutes. They have had to start using phones to report since the wind was trying to tear the satellite dish off their truck. I don't know how well calibrated that anemometer is, but my guess is it is since this is the station Dr. Neil Frank is still consulting for even though he has retired.


Edit to add further reports.

They are reporting many hotels and condos with numerous windows blown out and many power poles down or snapped in half.
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7953 Postby TexWx » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:31 pm

Finally got a text message from my cousin in Port Isabel.
They are completely frightened...
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7954 Postby dizzyfish » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:32 pm

I heard Cantore a while ago saying that a 20 x 20 section of the roof on the hotel where he is staying was blown off. Also he saw a palm tree "peeled".
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7955 Postby lester » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:33 pm

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#7956 Postby RL3AO » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:35 pm

Just a few miles until landfall.

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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7957 Postby kurtpage » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:35 pm

I do know that my Father-In-Law leaves late this evening / early tomorrow morning for clean-up. He is the foreman of 10 or so tree trimming crews that services AEP in most of eastern texas. I believe that AEP (POwer Company) is in this area as well...
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7958 Postby ncweatherwizard » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:35 pm

TexWx wrote:Finally got a text message from my cousin in Port Isabel.
They are completely frightened...


Stay inside and hang in there!
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Re: ATL: H Dolly in Western Gulf of Mexico

#7959 Postby Tireman4 » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:36 pm

I cannot get ahold of my friend in Raymondville. Her text is on, but no response.


Just did. Said the wind and rain is really bad right now.
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#7960 Postby KWT » Wed Jul 23, 2008 12:37 pm

Wow lester88, that SW eyewall is really intense right now some pretty explosive convection at the moment.
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