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#801 Postby KWT » Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:41 am

Ok so in that case Hanna better start getting itself moving out right away then!
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#802 Postby ronjon » Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:51 am

06Z GFS and now 06Z NAM have both shifted west from their 00Z runs on Hanna. Yes, I know its the NAM but I'm looking at the trend.

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#803 Postby KWT » Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:54 am

Yep the models do seem to be steadily shifting westwards, by the way is that Ike to the east?
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#804 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:54 am

Models indeed trending west this morning, with the GFS showing a landfall in Florida or Georgia through my untrained eyes.
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#805 Postby caneman » Tue Sep 02, 2008 5:59 am

Here is the 06 run on the UKMET only goes out 48 hours but look how IKE is catching up.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/ukmtc2.c ... =Animation
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#806 Postby KWT » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:01 am

UKMO actually has it landfalling in Haiti before lifiting out.

I also seem to recall the discussions stating that Ike may end up further north if the UKMO solution is correct about slower movement from Hanna.
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#807 Postby stayawaynow » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:03 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:06 GFS Landfall Jax


Can you please post the link for the GFS?
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#808 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:04 am

stayawaynow wrote:
DESTRUCTION5 wrote:06 GFS Landfall Jax


Can you please post the link for the GFS?



http://www.nco.ncep.noaa.gov/pmb/nwprod ... loop.shtml
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#809 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:04 am

DESTRUCTION5 wrote:
KWT wrote:What sort of timeframe by the way DESTRUCTION5?


Thurs eve


Friday morning/midday?? hehe :D
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#810 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:05 am

I am not sure its gonna be that fast...She may sit down there for a time...
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#811 Postby KWT » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:07 am

Yeah I'm starting to wonder the same Deltadog, I think the UKMO is onto something here, its the ebst model to use in these strong high pressure situations.

As I said this slow motion would not only have an effect on Hanna, but also the lnog term track of Ike...
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#812 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:27 am

KWT wrote:Yeah I'm starting to wonder the same Deltadog, I think the UKMO is onto something here, its the ebst model to use in these strong high pressure situations.

As I said this slow motion would not only have an effect on Hanna, but also the lnog term track of Ike...

this is brilliant, brit loving the ukmet... :lol:
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#813 Postby KWT » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:32 am

jlauderdal, I've noticed the UKMO is very good when it comes to these strong high pressure set-ups for some, I'm not sure why though!
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#814 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:39 am

KWT wrote:jlauderdal, I've noticed the UKMO is very good when it comes to these strong high pressure set-ups for some, I'm not sure why though!


im kidding of course, the ukmet was very consistent the last few days, lets see what transpires throughout today
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#815 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:41 am

Hey, I Am an american and I love the EURO...hahaha BTW, 00z euro weakens hanna today, but then begins to move her WNW towards florida, strengthens her pretty rapidly and now has landfall on the middle georgia coastline. MAybe brunswick?? Thats a bit of a shift west as well.
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#816 Postby KWT » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:43 am

Yep sure is Deelta, it seems like the models are slowly trying to shift the track more to the west then was previously expected.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#817 Postby jlauderdal » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:44 am

deltadog03 wrote:Hey, I Am an american and I love the EURO...hahaha BTW, 00z euro weakens hanna today, but then begins to move her WNW towards florida, strengthens her pretty rapidly and now has landfall on the middle georgia coastline. MAybe brunswick?? Thats a bit of a shift west as well.


hope your parents do alright and it stays east of their area, these storms are really a bear for the older people...when are you releasing your next forecast? i checked out your forecast yesterday and so far it looks good.
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#818 Postby BOPPA » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:44 am

Link please - to what you guys are talking about, as far as
UKMO being onto something - thanks

Living in SW Fl. and seeing ALL these storms one after the other, even though none are said to be headed "our" way - makes me want to pack up, get in the car, drive North and
never look back !!! :roll:
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Re: ATL: Hurricane Hanna Model Runs

#819 Postby deltadog03 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:45 am

XYno....Maybe you can post some images from last nights 00z euro when you get online today?? I am interested to see what the euro bombs this out too. On the ewall site, can't see any pressures as its one big strong storm.
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#820 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Tue Sep 02, 2008 6:50 am

hAVE NOT PLOTTED BUT IT SEEMS WAY wEST? 27.7 79.5 IS CLOSE TO FL

Tue Sep 2 07:35:11 EDT 2008
WHXX04 KWBC 021132

CHGQLM

ATTENTION...NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER



NCEP COUPLED GFDL HURRICANE MODEL FORECAST MADE FOR



HURRICANE HANNA 08L



INITIAL TIME 6Z SEP 2



DISCLAIMER ... THIS INFORMATION IS PROVIDED AS GUIDANCE. IT

REQUIRES INTERPRETATION BY HURRICANE SPECIALISTS AND SHOULD

NOT BE CONSIDERED AS A FINAL PRODUCT. PLEASE SEE THE TPC/NHC

OFFICIAL FORECAST.





FORECAST STORM POSITION



HOUR LATITUDE LONGITUDE HEADING/SPEED(KT)



0 21.3 72.6 200./ 7.0

6 21.2 72.5 132./ 1.3

12 21.4 72.8 309./ 3.3

18 21.6 73.0 319./ 3.1

24 22.0 73.3 322./ 4.8

30 22.5 73.6 326./ 5.4

36 23.5 74.2 329./11.5

42 24.5 75.2 315./13.2

48 24.9 76.4 289./12.1

54 25.6 77.4 306./11.2

60 26.5 78.4 313./12.6

66 27.7 79.5 317./15.7

72 29.1 80.6 323./16.6

78 30.6 81.5 328./17.4

84 32.5 82.1 344./19.2

90 34.5 82.2 356./19.5

96 36.6 81.7 12./22.0

102 39.6 80.4 25./31.5

108 42.3 78.0 41./32.0

114 44.8 74.7 53./34.9

120 47.3 71.2 55./34.9

126 49.4 66.7 65./36.7
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