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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9321 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:39 pm

We could be going into a weakening phase here. The cloud tops are warming quite a bit. Reds are dissapearing and the dry slot seems to be holding. It's probably starting to feel the effects of the colder waters.


http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/avn-l.jpg
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#9322 Postby Just Joshing You » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:41 pm

I think it is weakening a little too late to landfall. Also, the windfield will just broaden more anyways.. so it doesn't really effect it all that much at the point of landfall.
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#9323 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:41 pm

Well we are about to the point where the track is supposed to bend a little more to the west and start slowing down. It will be interesting to watch as to see if this happens sooner or later. Will make a big difference for SE LA.
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9324 Postby Stormcenter » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:41 pm

A tropical storm's movement is in the eye of the beholder. I say NW to WNW maybe.


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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9325 Postby drezee » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:42 pm

New vortex is out

955mb

MAX FL WIND 113KTS N QUAD 0158Z
MAX OUTBOUND FL WIND 108KTS NE QUAD 0211Z
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9326 Postby LAwxrgal » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:42 pm

Hello all, LAwxrgal here signing on from Humble, TX. My heart is sick watching the radar loops and knowing what's about to happen to places I know well and hold dear, including my hometown. I've spent a lifetime with a love of storms, and developed a healthy fear and respect for them after Hurricane Katrina. Now I think it's about to turn to a full-on hate if G does what he's forecast to do.

Peace and prayers,
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#9327 Postby TideJoe » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:42 pm

Just Joshing You wrote:I think it is weakening a little too late to landfall. Also, the windfield will just broaden more anyways.. so it doesn't really effect it all that much at the point of landfall.


Yeah.... that just means more of MS, LA, and AL will receive storm winds.
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9328 Postby Hyperstorm » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:43 pm

Pressure is up slightly, so the system is steady state right now. That's what happens when you follow short term trends. You cannot just assume you will see a system explode in intensity when you see deep reds on satellite for an hour or two.

The system still may strengthen some to around 125 mph during the next 6 hours with another burst of convection, but after that it should level off and/or slowly weaken as it heads toward the coast with increasing shear. Landfall should be anywhere from 115-125 mph at the most.

God Bless everyone in its path.
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#9329 Postby MHurricanes » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:43 pm

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Dangerous siblings.


Hurakan,

Thanks for all the great posts. I suppose I'm getting addicted to this great site.

I have suggested that many good people tend to romanticize hurricanes. Most of those folks have not experienced one -- or two or three. Which brings me to my point: It would be great to hear from a few people who have survived, or at least endured, Nature's thumb in the eye.

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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9330 Postby ConvergenceZone » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:43 pm

Normandy wrote:Yep, convection is now consistently weakening... Good news, i thought earlier that Gustav might go nuts before landfall. Still, no need to downplay this....its gonna be awful.



Yep, you never want to downplay a hurricane, but based upon how fast I've seen some of the cold cloud tops warming and the dry air slot expanding north of the eye. I would say that it's possible this can be down to 95 mph or 100 mph at landfall. borderline cat1/cat2.....Now before you start cursing me, keep in mind that it only has to drop 15 to 20 mph from where it is currently, and that wouldn't be very hard for it to do considering it still has several more hours over water.

Just my opinion based on current trend.
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9331 Postby TideJoe » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:44 pm

Stormcenter wrote:A tropical storm's movement is in the eye of the beholder. I say NW to WNW maybe.


http://radar.weather.gov/radar.php?prod ... X&loop=yes


It's also relative to the radar you're using. It's going to look different from Baton Rouge than it does Mobile.
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#9332 Postby RainWind » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:44 pm

Does anyone know where one could go to get current, live wind reports for the Baton Rouge area?
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9333 Postby HarlequinBoy » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:46 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
Normandy wrote:Yep, convection is now consistently weakening... Good news, i thought earlier that Gustav might go nuts before landfall. Still, no need to downplay this....its gonna be awful.



Yep, you never want to downplay a hurricane, but based upon how fast I've seen some of the cold cloud tops warming and the dry air slot expanding north of the eye. I would say that it's possible this can be down to 95 mph or 100 mph at landfall. borderline cat1/cat2.....Now before you start cursing me, keep in mind that it only has to drop 15 to 20 mph from where it is currently, and that wouldn't be very hard for it to do considering it still has several more hours over water.

Just my opinion based on current trend.


That's true. Lili was stronger and it fell apart just like that. *snaps*
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#9334 Postby captain east » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:48 pm

RainWind wrote:Does anyone know where one could go to get current, live wind reports for the Baton Rouge area?

No idea..

BTW good luck, my prayers are with you...
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9335 Postby Hyperstorm » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:48 pm

ConvergenceZone wrote:
Normandy wrote:Yep, convection is now consistently weakening... Good news, i thought earlier that Gustav might go nuts before landfall. Still, no need to downplay this....its gonna be awful.



Yep, you never want to downplay a hurricane, but based upon how fast I've seen some of the cold cloud tops warming and the dry air slot expanding north of the eye. I would say that it's possible this can be down to 95 mph or 100 mph at landfall. borderline cat1/cat2.....Now before you start cursing me, keep in mind that it only has to drop 15 to 20 mph from where it is currently, and that wouldn't be very hard for it to do considering it still has several more hours over water.

Just my opinion based on current trend.


I would highly doubt that is the case. The system did in fact strengthen today with decreased shear. Based on aircraft data, it had been a Category 2 most of the day and FL winds now support a Category 3. So again, it did strengthen. The question is...Will this continue? IMO, it could as the structure looks the best it has all day, but don't expect a Category 4. The shear is still there. If the system slows down more than forecast, it could weaken as much as you say, but chances are low.
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9336 Postby HeeBGBz » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:49 pm

I just found out my daughter is sitting at home alone in Biloxi with my two grandsons age 1 and 7. She's near Pass Road and Keesler. I'm really worried. My son stayed in Biloxi too. I haven't heard from him yet. It's gonna be a long night.
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#9337 Postby O Town » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:50 pm

RainWind wrote:Does anyone know where one could go to get current, live wind reports for the Baton Rouge area?


http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstat ... =KLABATON9

http://www.wunderground.com/weatherstat ... =KLABATON3

Look to the right at the map for the exact location, but both those are in Baton Rouge.
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#9338 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:51 pm

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Labor Day Hurricane 2. (Not comparable in strength, just day)
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Re: Cat 3 Hurricane Gustav in Gulf of Mexico

#9339 Postby Normandy » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:51 pm

ConvergenceZone,
I actually think it has a better chance of becoming a Category 4 hurricane than weakening the a borderline 1 or 2. Steady state, possibly slight intensification before landfall. For sure a major though I think.
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#9340 Postby BigB0882 » Sun Aug 31, 2008 9:52 pm

The strengthening was exciting but hopefully it is done, some slight weakening would not be a bad thing at all!
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