Hurricane Gustav Recon

[RL3AO]

URNT15 KNHC 310540
AF307 1807A GUSTAV HDOB 11 20080831
053000 2301N 08440W 6976 02983 9861 +101 +100 317045 047 051 002 00
053030 2300N 08442W 6977 02987 9860 +106 +100 317048 049 051 002 00
053100 2259N 08443W 6977 02994 9866 +107 +100 310047 048 052 003 00
053130 2257N 08444W 6975 02999 9876 +104 +100 304045 046 052 003 00
053200 2256N 08446W 6976 03004 9887 +100 +100 304043 044 051 001 00
053230 2255N 08447W 6980 03002 9887 +102 +100 306045 046 051 000 00
053300 2254N 08448W 6975 03012 9886 +106 +100 308045 046 052 001 00
053330 2253N 08450W 6977 03013 9890 +109 +100 303042 043 051 001 00
053400 2251N 08451W 6979 03016 9894 +109 +100 301040 041 052 000 00
053430 2250N 08452W 6977 03020 9899 +107 +100 307039 039 051 000 00
053500 2249N 08453W 6977 03024 9895 +114 +100 305038 040 050 000 00
053530 2248N 08455W 6973 03031 9895 +115 +100 302041 041 050 000 00
053600 2247N 08456W 6979 03027 9896 +116 +100 305042 043 047 000 00
053630 2245N 08457W 6975 03034 9908 +109 +100 310040 042 050 000 00
053700 2244N 08459W 6977 03032 9919 +101 +100 310040 043 049 000 00
053730 2243N 08500W 6976 03038 9925 +098 +098 311045 048 048 000 00
053800 2242N 08501W 6976 03041 9924 +102 +100 311048 050 048 000 00
053830 2240N 08503W 6975 03044 9928 +100 +100 312044 045 047 000 00
053900 2239N 08504W 6978 03044 9930 +101 +100 308042 043 046 000 00
053930 2238N 08505W 6977 03049 9939 +099 +099 301041 044 046 000 00
$$

[Thunder44]

Maybe that they they missed the vortex?

edit... i do think they did

gotoman, we are in the eclispe now. The satellite image you have now is a couple hours old.

[gotoman38]

gotoman, we are in the eclispe now. The satellite image you have now is a couple hours old.

ah- thanks - forgot that one!



3:45Z image

[RL3AO]

URNT12 KNHC 310545
VORTEX DATA MESSAGE AL072008
A. 31/05:19:40Z
B. 23 deg 25 min N
084 deg 15 min W
C. 700 mb 2727 m
D. 98 kt
E. 055 deg 14 nm
F. 150 deg 113 kt
G. 062 deg 018 nm
H. 960 mb
I. 12 C/ 3045 m
J. 19 C/ 3038 m
K. 12 C/ NA
L. OPEN SE
M. E18/30/20
N. 12345/7
O. 0.02 / 2 nm
P. AF307 1807A GUSTAV OB 04
MAX FL WIND 113 KT NE QUAD 05:14:30 Z

960mb/se eyewall still open.

[RL3AO]

Wobbled a little bit off track.

[RL3AO]

URNT15 KNHC 310550
AF307 1807A GUSTAV HDOB 12 20080831
054000 2237N 08506W 6976 03050 9933 +104 +100 295043 043 046 000 00
054030 2236N 08508W 6976 03053 9937 +105 +100 295043 043 045 000 00
054100 2235N 08509W 6977 03051 9937 +105 +100 296041 041 043 000 00
054130 2233N 08510W 6977 03054 9936 +107 +100 298042 043 043 000 00
054200 2232N 08511W 6978 03051 9941 +104 +100 301042 043 042 000 00
054230 2231N 08513W 6975 03056 9948 +098 +098 306042 042 042 000 00
054300 2230N 08514W 6977 03056 9953 +096 +096 308044 045 045 000 00
054330 2229N 08515W 6976 03060 9952 +099 +099 309044 045 043 000 00
054400 2227N 08517W 6976 03061 9960 +093 +093 312045 045 042 000 03
054430 2226N 08518W 6980 03060 9968 +088 +088 311042 043 042 000 00
054500 2225N 08519W 6977 03066 9976 +085 +085 309040 040 041 000 00
054530 2224N 08521W 6977 03067 9978 +085 +085 309039 039 040 000 00
054600 2222N 08522W 6977 03070 9975 +089 +089 311041 041 042 000 00
054630 2221N 08523W 6976 03072 9975 +091 +091 311040 040 043 000 00
054700 2220N 08525W 6977 03072 9974 +094 +094 311039 040 042 000 00
054730 2219N 08526W 6977 03075 9975 +095 +095 307038 038 039 000 00
054800 2218N 08527W 6976 03077 9977 +093 +093 307038 038 040 000 00
054830 2216N 08528W 6976 03077 9975 +095 +095 311037 038 039 000 00
054900 2215N 08530W 6978 03076 9977 +095 +095 314037 037 036 000 00
054930 2214N 08531W 6976 03078 9976 +096 +096 315036 037 035 002 00
$$

[gotoman38]

[RL3AO]

URNT15 KNHC 310600
AF307 1807A GUSTAV HDOB 13 20080831
055000 2213N 08532W 6974 03083 9978 +094 +094 317035 037 036 000 00
055030 2211N 08534W 6977 03077 9983 +091 +091 317037 038 036 002 00
055100 2210N 08535W 6977 03082 9984 +094 +094 318037 037 037 001 00
055130 2209N 08537W 6975 03083 9982 +094 +094 318036 037 033 000 00
055200 2207N 08538W 6976 03082 9988 +092 +092 321035 036 034 001 03
055230 2206N 08538W 6976 03085 9987 +091 +091 319035 035 999 999 03
055300 2205N 08536W 6977 03082 9986 +094 +094 315033 034 027 002 03
055330 2206N 08534W 6977 03081 9982 +097 +097 313033 034 033 001 03
055400 2206N 08532W 6976 03082 9982 +095 +095 310034 035 038 000 00
055430 2207N 08530W 6977 03082 9978 +095 +095 309032 033 038 001 00
055500 2207N 08528W 6976 03082 9981 +095 +095 309033 034 039 001 00
055530 2207N 08526W 6980 03077 9979 +097 +097 307032 034 035 002 00
055600 2207N 08524W 6976 03081 9980 +095 +095 305032 033 034 001 00
055630 2208N 08521W 6981 03072 9979 +093 +093 301034 034 036 000 00
055700 2208N 08519W 6976 03078 9977 +095 +095 299034 035 036 001 00
055730 2208N 08517W 6976 03076 9976 +095 +095 295036 037 038 000 00
055800 2208N 08515W 6979 03072 9975 +093 +093 294037 038 040 000 00
055830 2209N 08513W 6977 03073 9972 +095 +095 295036 037 037 000 00
055900 2209N 08511W 6977 03071 9972 +094 +094 294037 038 038 000 00
055930 2209N 08508W 6976 03072 9969 +095 +095 292038 038 038 001 03
$$

[gotoman38]

[pojo]

UZNT13 KNHC 310530
XXAA 3105/ 99234 70842 08134 99960 26811 ///// 00864 ///// 92329
24400 85070 21206 70747 18658 88999 77999
31313 09608 80519
61616 AF307 1807A GUSTAV OB 06
62626 EYE 0523 AEV 00000 =
XXBB 31058 99234 70842 08134 00960 26811 11850 21206 22791 18205
33772 19232 44732 17640 55712 20258 66698 18458
21212 00960 /////
31313 09608 80519
61616 AF307 1807A GUSTAV OB 06
62626 EYE 0523 AEV 00000 =


Shows only 960mb but didn't record a wind.

wind is not required on EYE sondes

[pojo]

Maybe that they they missed the vortex?

edit... i do think they did

please give them the benefit of a doubt... you try flying in a hurricane with millions of people watching your every move....

there was probably something on radar the nav didn't like and made them fly around.... or it was the ARWO calling direction changes.... there are many variables that go into why they 'supposedly' missed the fix.... as long as you get a vortex within the fix window we are on time....

I know this isn't the discussion forum.... I needed to get this written

[RL3AO]

URNT15 KNHC 310610
AF307 1807A GUSTAV HDOB 14 20080831
060000 2210N 08506W 6979 03068 9966 +098 +098 291035 035 037 001 03
060030 2211N 08505W 6977 03068 9962 +100 +100 290035 036 038 000 03
060100 2212N 08503W 6977 03067 9961 +100 +100 289036 036 038 000 00
060130 2214N 08502W 6979 03064 9959 +100 +100 287036 036 038 000 00
060200 2215N 08501W 6977 03061 9958 +099 +099 287036 037 039 000 00
060230 2217N 08459W 6977 03064 9958 +100 +100 288037 037 038 000 00
060300 2218N 08458W 6979 03059 9955 +100 +100 289037 038 038 000 00
060330 2220N 08457W 6976 03061 9950 +102 +100 287038 038 039 000 00
060400 2221N 08455W 6977 03057 9947 +103 +100 285036 037 040 000 00
060430 2223N 08454W 6977 03055 9947 +100 +100 282035 035 039 000 00
060500 2224N 08453W 6976 03057 9947 +098 +098 281037 038 040 000 00
060530 2225N 08451W 6974 03055 9948 +095 +095 281039 039 041 000 00
060600 2227N 08450W 6980 03049 9950 +094 +094 281038 039 041 000 00
060630 2228N 08449W 6976 03051 9943 +096 +096 279041 042 043 001 00
060700 2230N 08447W 6976 03050 9942 +096 +096 278041 041 043 001 00
060730 2231N 08446W 6976 03048 9945 +091 +091 277040 041 042 001 00
060800 2233N 08445W 6975 03047 9944 +090 +090 277041 041 042 000 00
060830 2234N 08443W 6979 03038 9935 +094 +094 279043 044 042 000 00
060900 2236N 08442W 6979 03037 9932 +095 +095 278045 047 043 000 00
060930 2237N 08440W 6977 03038 9930 +095 +095 275043 044 043 000 00
$$

[RL3AO]

please give them the benefit of a doubt... you try flying in a hurricane with millions of people watching your every move....

there was probably something on radar the nav didn't like and made them fly around.... or it was the ARWO calling direction changes.... there are many variables that go into why they 'supposedly' missed the fix.... as long as you get a vortex within the fix window we are on time....

I know this isn't the discussion forum.... I needed to get this written

They didn't miss the fix. The satellite is in eclipse so its an old image. It made it appear that they missed the center. The HDOBs clearly showed they nailed the center.

[gotoman38]

absolutely what he said - no criticism of the HHrs here!!

[RL3AO]

URNT15 KNHC 310620
AF307 1807A GUSTAV HDOB 15 20080831
061000 2239N 08439W 6977 03038 9932 +095 +095 275042 044 043 000 00
061030 2240N 08438W 6977 03036 9924 +099 +099 274039 040 042 001 00
061100 2242N 08436W 6976 03034 9919 +101 +100 274040 040 044 000 00
061130 2243N 08435W 6976 03032 9916 +101 +100 271041 042 045 000 00
061200 2245N 08434W 6977 03026 9904 +107 +100 267041 042 045 001 00
061230 2246N 08432W 6977 03024 9898 +109 +100 262040 040 045 002 03
061300 2247N 08430W 6973 03025 9896 +108 +100 259041 042 047 000 00
061330 2249N 08428W 6980 03016 9893 +109 +100 260038 039 047 000 00
061400 2250N 08427W 6973 03020 9892 +107 +100 260042 044 049 002 00
061430 2251N 08425W 6976 03015 9889 +108 +100 256041 043 050 001 00
061500 2253N 08423W 6977 03010 9893 +103 +100 251039 041 050 000 00
061530 2254N 08421W 6976 03011 9887 +105 +100 246042 043 052 001 00
061600 2255N 08419W 6975 03009 9885 +103 +100 240045 045 053 000 00
061630 2256N 08418W 6962 03017 9895 +091 +091 240044 046 052 002 00
061700 2258N 08416W 6974 03003 9881 +101 +100 234046 048 053 001 00
061730 2259N 08414W 6972 03004 9880 +101 +100 232050 051 052 000 00
061800 2300N 08412W 6964 03014 9874 +104 +100 232051 053 052 000 00
061830 2302N 08410W 6972 03004 9875 +104 +100 228054 055 052 002 03
061900 2303N 08408W 6968 03008 9872 +104 +100 229057 059 053 003 00
061930 2305N 08406W 6964 03010 9872 +103 +100 224061 062 053 001 00
$$

[Texashawk]

please give them the benefit of a doubt... you try flying in a hurricane with millions of people watching your every move....

there was probably something on radar the nav didn't like and made them fly around.... or it was the ARWO calling direction changes.... there are many variables that go into why they 'supposedly' missed the fix.... as long as you get a vortex within the fix window we are on time....

I know this isn't the discussion forum.... I needed to get this written

They didn't miss the fix. The satellite is in eclipse so its an old image. It made it appear that they missed the center. The HDOBs clearly showed they nailed the center.

agreed... I know I won't argue with people who routinely fly through and into the center of what is essentially an enormous F2-F3 tornado.

[gotoman38]

[RL3AO]

URNT15 KNHC 310630
AF307 1807A GUSTAV HDOB 16 20080831
062000 2306N 08404W 6967 03010 9872 +104 +100 221060 062 053 002 00
062030 2307N 08402W 6969 03007 9875 +101 +100 214061 062 053 001 00
062100 2309N 08400W 6965 03010 9875 +101 +100 213062 063 053 002 03
062130 2311N 08359W 6957 03016 9865 +106 +100 213064 064 999 999 03
062200 2312N 08400W 6975 02994 9861 +108 +100 214064 066 052 000 03
062230 2314N 08401W 6967 02997 9853 +111 +100 214061 061 052 002 00
062300 2315N 08402W 6969 02992 9844 +112 +100 220060 060 052 002 00
062330 2316N 08404W 6964 02985 9822 +123 +100 218064 066 054 000 00
062400 2318N 08405W 6969 02975 9819 +121 +100 219068 069 055 000 00
062430 2319N 08406W 6964 02969 9806 +119 +100 219068 068 056 001 00
062500 2320N 08408W 6969 02957 9796 +122 +100 220069 070 054 004 00
062530 2322N 08409W 6968 02947 9778 +131 +100 221073 076 057 003 00
062600 2323N 08410W 6967 02935 9755 +138 +100 222077 078 063 000 00
062630 2324N 08411W 6963 02929 9731 +150 +100 225081 081 066 000 00
062700 2325N 08413W 6969 02910 9701 +169 +100 227079 080 074 000 03
062730 2327N 08414W 6967 02892 9674 +172 +100 231080 083 074 000 00
062800 2328N 08415W 6970 02868 9652 +170 +100 230084 085 068 000 00
062830 2330N 08416W 6963 02852 9613 +187 +100 230073 076 061 001 00
062900 2331N 08417W 6972 02828 9617 +164 +100 226066 068 051 002 00
062930 2333N 08418W 6971 02819 9592 +171 +100 228061 063 047 008 00
$$

Getting close to center.

[gotoman38]

IMAGE STILL AT 3:45Z



IMAGE STILL IN ECLIPSE

[RL3AO]

URNT15 KNHC 310640
AF307 1807A GUSTAV HDOB 17 20080831
063000 2334N 08419W 6965 02807 9577 +170 +100 222057 060 048 004 00
063030 2335N 08421W 6964 02796 9563 +174 +100 216045 051 043 001 00
063100 2337N 08422W 6969 02783 9551 +180 +100 215036 038 037 002 00
063130 2338N 08423W 6964 02783 9543 +178 +100 213034 035 034 001 00
063200 2339N 08425W 6965 02775 9544 +173 +100 214025 028 033 000 00
063230 2341N 08426W 6969 02769 9535 +181 +100 226015 019 031 000 00
063300 2342N 08428W 6971 02761 9526 +184 +100 257008 010 032 001 03
063330 2343N 08429W 6963 02771 9538 +169 +100 234002 004 033 003 00
063400 2345N 08430W 6966 02768 9540 +169 +100 062004 011 032 002 00
063430 2346N 08432W 6963 02771 9535 +175 +100 058025 030 036 003 03
063500 2347N 08433W 6969 02768 9539 +175 +100 066034 036 999 999 03
063530 2349N 08432W 6960 02782 9545 +169 +100 078033 035 044 000 03
063600 2350N 08431W 6967 02774 9560 +157 +100 095039 042 049 001 00
063630 2351N 08430W 6967 02778 9567 +151 +100 104043 044 059 001 00
063700 2352N 08429W 6965 02789 9583 +144 +100 106050 053 076 001 00
063730 2353N 08427W 6964 02795 9591 +143 +100 112055 056 089 002 00
063800 2354N 08426W 6983 02782 9605 +137 +100 111067 070 093 001 03
063830 2354N 08425W 6964 02802 9600 +140 +100 112066 067 094 000 03
063900 2353N 08423W 6958 02811 9588 +153 +100 120065 067 091 001 00
063930 2353N 08422W 6967 02797 9582 +155 +100 128068 069 095 000 00
$$