EPAC: TROPICAL DEPRESSION JIMENA (13E)

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#101 Postby clfenwi » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:44 am

KWT wrote:Given the way this one is developing I do wonder whether its going to feel a bigger tug to the north then some of the models are expecting bar the hurricane models?


That has been the dilemma from the start. GFDL does seem to be showing some right bias early on:

12Z forecast position from 00Z run: 14.2 N 102.3 E
12Z Forecast position from 06Z run: 14.4 N 102.7 E
12z best track position: 14.1N 102.8E
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#102 Postby KWT » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:51 am

Though to be fair it seems to have been wobbling alot further north recently, probably due to the explosive strengthening that is likely occuring, probably now 14.6/102.3, pretty much already near the same latitude as the NHC forecast point but it will probably now take a westward jog I'd imagine.
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#103 Postby cyclonic chronic » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:53 am

the presentation of this is how i imagine the 1935 fl. keys hurricane that blew away previous barometric press. readings. small, strong and quickly intensifying.
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Re: EPAC: HURRICANE JIMENA (13E)

#104 Postby clfenwi » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:54 am

12z GFS track is very similar to the previous run and slightly west after 120h. No real change in its weak intensity depiction.

12Z NOGAPS does have the change in depiction and has a very different track forecast from 00Z as a result. Keeps the storm well away from land.
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Re: EPAC: HURRICANE JIMENA (13E)

#105 Postby cycloneye » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:55 am

Remember,this was 93L in the Caribbean,just didnt have time to develop there due to land.
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Re: EPAC: HURRICANE JIMENA (13E)

#106 Postby Macrocane » Sat Aug 29, 2009 11:57 am

It seems that he EPAC was jelous for the lot of attention that the ATL had with Danny and Bill and it bring to life Jimena.
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#107 Postby fasterdisaster » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:02 pm

80 mph is the underestimation of the century.
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Re: EPAC: HURRICANE JIMENA (13E)

#108 Postby Cookie » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:03 pm

Macrocane wrote:It seems that he EPAC was jelous for the lot of attention that the ATL had with Danny and Bill and it bring to life Jimena.


been plenty to track in the EPAC, 5 hurricanes this season.

always going to be more attention Atlantic side
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#109 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:06 pm

fasterdisaster wrote:80 mph is the underestimation of the century.


My guess right now is about 105-110 mph with a pressure around 952mb.
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Re: EPAC: HURRICANE JIMENA (13E)

#110 Postby Macrocane » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:08 pm

Cookie wrote:
Macrocane wrote:It seems that he EPAC was jelous for the lot of attention that the ATL had with Danny and Bill and it bring to life Jimena.


been plenty to track in the EPAC, 5 hurricanes this season.

always going to be more attention Atlantic side


I know :wink: But it seems that Jimena will be the hurricane that will caught more attention so far this season if it becomes the monster that some of us have been saying.
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Re: EPAC: HURRICANE JIMENA (13E)

#111 Postby clfenwi » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:09 pm

Will be interesting to watch the ADT data to see how long the T number remains constrained. Wilma had three streches ~ 12 hours long where it was constrained. Jimena looks like it's numbers are going to be similarly capped for a longer stretch.
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Re: EPAC: HURRICANE JIMENA (13E)

#112 Postby bombarderoazul » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:09 pm

The eye is becoming more visible, I wouldn't be surprised to see a major hurricane later today.
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Re: EPAC: HURRICANE JIMENA (13E)

#113 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:13 pm

bombarderoazul wrote:The eye is becoming more visible, I wouldn't be surprised to see a major hurricane later today.


If it isn't already. I wouldn't be surprised to see a special advisory issued in the next hour.

The eye has to be no more than 5 or 6 miles wide...
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Re: EPAC: HURRICANE JIMENA (13E)

#114 Postby clfenwi » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:14 pm

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#115 Postby KWT » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:14 pm

In this case the NHC are clearly going to have to over ride the Dvorak estimates since they are clearly to low, very likely this is a category-2 already.
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#116 Postby CrazyC83 » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:18 pm

This is classic El Nino conditions. Almost all of the EPAC monsters were in strong El Nino years, could Jimena join them?
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Re: EPAC: HURRICANE JIMENA (13E)

#117 Postby clfenwi » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:39 pm

(edited to add link to complete loop)

12Z HWRF's inner core depiction at 48h:

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#118 Postby KWT » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:49 pm

The HWRF still is rapidly deepening this one as we can see this occuring and also still has it hitting Mexico. I'm guessing this is the model as per normal having an eastern bias but still the GFDL also is very keen on doing it.

By the way the pinhole eye is already north of where it was forecasted to be by 00 UTC, just keep that in mind given what the HWRF and GFDL both do with this system...
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Re: EPAC: HURRICANE JIMENA (13E)

#119 Postby HurricaneRobert » Sat Aug 29, 2009 12:50 pm

How big is that eye? It looks smaller than the 2 nm record.
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Re: EPAC: HURRICANE JIMENA (13E)

#120 Postby clfenwi » Sat Aug 29, 2009 1:17 pm

29/1745 UTC 14.8N 103.8W T5.0/5.0 JIMENA -- East Pacific
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