ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION ANA (02L)

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#1541 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:17 pm

Isnt the GFS the basis for some of the other computer models? And since the GFS looses Ana as a storm within a couple frames, wouldnt that effect some of the other models that are based on the GFS?
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#1542 Postby artist » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:18 pm

Gustywind wrote:Can someone put the latest models, plots for Anna please :) ?
Us in the islands are always monitor Anna as the Leewards and Northern Leew could be hit by this feature.
Tkanks my US friends :).

here is the link for you my friend, it is updated with each model run. Be sure to click the storm # for the storm you are interested in if there is more than one out there such as right now we have 2 - Ana and Bill
which are storm 2 and storm 3, respectively. The 100 storms seem to be those in the Pacific and storm 50 and storm 90 are those that are running before they actually become storms, so you will have no need to look at those either at this point.
https://my.sfwmd.gov/portal/page?_pagei ... ema=PORTAL
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#1543 Postby KWT » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:22 pm

It is there weakly and its only really a slight reflection but you can track whatever of Ana it has takes it over north Cuba.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ANA (Models)

#1544 Postby HurricaneRobert » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:22 pm

Could it meet the same fate that Chris did a couple of years ago? Will there be wind shear north of Hispaniola?
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#1545 Postby DanKellFla » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:27 pm

I am in Palm Beach county. I am not going to fill up my gas cans just yet.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ANA (02L)

#1546 Postby storms NC » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:27 pm

wxman57 wrote:Every advisory has shifted the track to the left. No reason to think that'll stop now.


This happens with most storms. It will go to the left for a few runs then a shift back to the right for a few runs. Then when they get all the ducks in a row it will very close. I can just about bet you they will move it back Sunday to the right.

It is going to be up to the ULL if it move either way to the west then the track will move more to the left. If it moves east or North east the track will move back to the right. The Ull is in control of Ana track cause she is weak.

I don't think Ana will make it pass the ULL. I think it will tear her apart. It all come down to what she does tonight and Sunday.

But the upper Islands need to do what they need to do now. But some don't have much to do with. For them I worry over. We can run to the next state. Where are they going to go? All they can do is their best. But you know If I had money I would move down to the virgin Islands in a heart beat
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#1547 Postby Bailey1777 » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:31 pm

If Ana enters the GOM still intact where would the steering currents most likely take her give or take 200 miles?
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#1548 Postby senorpepr » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:34 pm

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#1549 Postby paintplaye » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:39 pm

Bailey1777 wrote:If Ana enters the GOM still intact where would the steering currents most likely take her give or take 200 miles?


No one knows. It is really hard to guess what the steering currents will be when it enters the gulf. It depends on how strong the ridge is and if there are any troughs that are coming down. The stronger the ridge, the farther west it will go.
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#1550 Postby HouTXmetro » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:40 pm

Bailey1777 wrote:If Ana enters the GOM still intact where would the steering currents most likely take her give or take 200 miles?


Who knows, right now the entire Northern/Northwestern Gulf is at risk.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ANA (02L)

#1551 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:41 pm

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE MELBOURNE FL
245 PM EDT SAT AUG 15 2009

WED-SAT...
LATE WEEK FORECAST VERY DEPENDENT ON EVENTUAL TRACK AND INTENSITY OF
TC ANA. THE GFS DOES NOT SEEM IMPRESSED AND KEEPS "ANA" AN OPEN
TROPICAL WAVE. NEVERTHELESS...HAVE FAIRLY HIGH CONFIDENCE THAT RAIN
CHANCES WILL BE ON THE INCREASE WED AND ESP THU.
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#1552 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:41 pm

18Z GFS looses Ana as a low after 12 hours.

Couldnt one of the reasons the GFS keeps on taking a generally southern route because it has Ana weak and looses it as a tropical system?
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#1553 Postby Bailey1777 » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:42 pm

No disrespect but I'm looking for a pro opinion as alot of the factors you mentioned can be predicted with some sort of confidence 5 days out.
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#1554 Postby clfenwi » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:43 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:Isnt the GFS the basis for some of the other computer models? And since the GFS looses Ana as a storm within a couple frames, wouldnt that effect some of the other models that are based on the GFS?


Not really, as the GFDL/HWRF use the GFS for initial conditions (and, if I'm not mistaken, only for the outer grid/boundary). BAMs use it to generate steering currents. SHIPS may be somewhat affected because it uses the GFS vortex for an input or two, but that's about it.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM ANA (02L)

#1555 Postby lonelymike » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:45 pm

wxman57 wrote:
Evil Jeremy wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Every advisory has shifted the track to the left. No reason to think that'll stop now.


What do you think the chances are now that this will impact SFL, or is is still to soon to tell?


If I were you, I wouldn't be too worried about Ana. It's sacrificing itself for Bill (and Claudette).



There's your pro opinion :cheesy:
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#1556 Postby storms NC » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:48 pm

Bailey1777 wrote:If Ana enters the GOM still intact where would the steering currents most likely take her give or take 200 miles?


Once it gets past the DP it will be any ones guess JIMO.

Looking at this loop I would say from Cuba to the west or eastern seaboard of Fla.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/tatl/loop-wv.html
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#1557 Postby Bailey1777 » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:55 pm

I think some are writing Ana off prematurely. It is not a destroyed system and there are surely no gaurantees that she will be shredded by land masses. I would not be suprised to see her wrap up into a small but powerful storm.
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#1558 Postby KWT » Sat Aug 15, 2009 4:57 pm

I think even if it goes over all the Caribbean if it gets into the boiling hot Gulf waters and it has even a modestly favorable conditions to work with it needs watching.
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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ANA (02L)

#1559 Postby tolakram » Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:13 pm

Convection getting close to the center again.

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/flash-ir2.html

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Re: ATL: TROPICAL STORM ANA (Models)

#1560 Postby srainhoutx » Sat Aug 15, 2009 5:15 pm

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