ATL: TROPICAL STORM BILL (03L)

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#1741 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:05 am

In this case the UKMO has been a southerly outlier throughout so its probably not right
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#1742 Postby Frank2 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:06 am

That's because it's driving on the left side of the road (sorry, KWT)...

LOL

P.S. Seriously, though, the rapid motion might be significant down the road (per the trough, etc.), but time will tell...
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1743 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:06 am

between the ukmet and the GFDL which one of the two models are more relieable with Hurricane Bill???
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#1744 Postby OuterBanker » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:11 am

I am now feeling confident of a fish now. Our local weather casters (Hampton Roads are our local stations) went as far as saying that we have no threats from any of the tropical systems here.

Also, one of my wifes best friends daughters is getting married in DC this weekend. I can now attend in a relaxed mood :)
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#1745 Postby Emmett_Brown » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:11 am

Per MWatkins blog last night, GFDL, HWRF, and Bams are all based on GFS model, which makes them naturally cluster together at times. UKMET is a completely different system. Not sure which is better, most of the chatter is that UKMET does not handle tropics well, so probably not much chance of verifying.
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#1746 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:13 am

Right now, Bill looks a LOT like Hurricane Ophelia
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#1747 Postby Frank2 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:13 am

I'd have to say that the model consensus is about as solid as any forecaster I ever worked for would want to see them, so a recurving system seems to be the most likely outcome (though never say never)...

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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1748 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:14 am

is it me or dose BILL look to be a double eyewall Hurricane???????

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-vis.html
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1749 Postby patrickrox11 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:16 am

With the hurricane accelerating more quickly, is there a greater chance that Hurricane Bill could affect Long Island/New England area (even though it is unlikely)?
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#1750 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:18 am

Well its certainly got something up with its inner core as the convection in the center has now been surrounded by what seems to be convectionless air. Certainly has an interesting presentation at the moment. Also seems like its right on track or maybe even a touch right of where it should be.

Looks like its also heading north of 15N decently before 50W.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1751 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:20 am

the GFDL model brings bill up to a cat.5 breifly!!!!!!!!!wow 135kts again wow!!:eek: :eek: :eek:


http://www.wunderground.com/tropical/tr ... 5d#a_topad
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1752 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:23 am

I hope not but chances of BILL pulling an ANDREW track is what? I hope it's slim to none!!!!!!!!
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#1753 Postby Nimbus » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:24 am

Interesting UKMET is the only model to cross south of the 15N -50W benchmark. That will be a good test of which model is verifying best for this time period.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1754 Postby SEASON_CANCELED » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:24 am

Its too early to know if Bill will affect CONUS. 24 hours ago it was headed for Florida. Until the recurve starts and is apparent I will be a believer. Until then, watch the models shift around.


Not convinced.
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#1755 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:28 am

Frank2 wrote:I'd have to say that the model consensus is about as solid as any forecaster I ever worked for would want to see them, so a recurving system seems to be the most likely outcome (though never say never)...

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Yeah I agree, sure you have got the UKMO as an outlier but its following the path the models have laid out perfectly so only really a threat to Bermuda and maybe Atlantic Canada.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1756 Postby x-y-no » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:28 am

Pressure at buoy 41041 (14.357 N 46.008 W) dropped 5.4mb in the last hour:
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sustained winds NNE at 37 knots.

The center of Bill should pass really close to this buoy.
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#1757 Postby x-y-no » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:31 am

Correction, sustained wind at 41041 now 41 knots, gusts over 50 knots
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1758 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:31 am

meters per second?

Someone go fix that buoy! :cheesy:
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1759 Postby x-y-no » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:31 am

hurricanefloyd5 wrote:I hope not but chances of BILL pulling an ANDREW track is what? I hope it's slim to none!!!!!!!!


None - EC trough will see to that.
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#1760 Postby x-y-no » Mon Aug 17, 2009 9:33 am

Data just updated for 41041:

Latest pressure drop 7.0mb
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