ATL: TROPICAL STORM BILL (03L)

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#1941 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:43 pm

Yep and the models have been trending slightly towards a slower trough, plus the observations made by Derek and Deltadog about the weakness already filling in and the upper high strengthening out to the west is suggestive that at the very least this may get a little further west then the models expect..if the models have one flaw its under-estimating ridges a little.
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#1942 Postby Derek Ortt » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:43 pm

chances still favor east of NC

however, chances of a fish are not that good right now
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#1943 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:44 pm

KWT wrote:Yep and the models have been trending slightly towards a slower trough, plus the observations made by Derek and Deltadog about the weakness already filling in and the upper high strengthening out to the west is suggestive that at the very least this may get a little further west then the models expect..if the models have one flaw its under-estimating ridges a little.


That could send it in the hole between Bermuda and the US East Coast, but that also surely will create a very close call for the areas that punch out (i.e. Cape Cod, Nantucket) and likely result in a Nova Scotia landfall.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1944 Postby taurus10 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:48 pm

well i remember gloria in 85 that the storm was a little more south than bill right now she ended up north of bahamas and then tracked just over the outerbanks and there was a cold front aproaching from the west and she straggled that front through new england there maybe no comparison here but it does show that these storms make there own enviorment when the rech cat3 or higher
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#1945 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:48 pm

Yeah Crazy that would be quite possible IF it does go further west then expected. Still need to see what the motion is like in the next 24hrs or so. Models mainly have this north of 20N by 60W so thats the next benchmark.
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1946 Postby OURAGAN » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:51 pm

in the last frames,i see west jog occuring already (may be to 275 w)
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1947 Postby I-wall » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:52 pm

Does anyone know where we can find the latest microwave imagery? I'm really curious to get a good look at the inner structure.
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#1948 Postby artist » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:53 pm

http://weather.msfc.nasa.gov/GOES/goeseasthurrwv.html
:cry: anyone else having problems with the above link running animations/loops today?
Anyone have the backup site info? Lost the link. Thanks in advance
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (Models)

#1949 Postby storm4u » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:53 pm

what time do the 0z models come out?
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1950 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:57 pm

I want to see an eye to track :) It has taken its time for an eye to open.
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#1951 Postby storms NC » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:58 pm

I just looked and it is going west or like 270-275

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t2/loop-wv.html

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#1952 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:58 pm

I don't think your going to get a good eye with this cycloneye till this one is a major hurricane to be honest, these big hurricanes in the tropics tend to take thier time to show all so to speak!
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1953 Postby OURAGAN » Mon Aug 17, 2009 5:58 pm

i agree
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1954 Postby OURAGAN » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:00 pm

West joq and moving fast
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#1955 Postby deltadog03 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:04 pm

The faster this continues to move the more time it can be allowed** to move more westerly. (IF it does move/jog/temp move that way)
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#1956 Postby DESTRUCTION5 » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:06 pm

Why do we keep posting WV instead of IR or visible? WV is useless when showing direction
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#1957 Postby I-wall » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:10 pm

KWT wrote:I don't think your going to get a good eye with this cycloneye till this one is a major hurricane to be honest, these big hurricanes in the tropics tend to take thier time to show all so to speak!

I agree. When it does happen though...its going to be big. This hurricane is massive!!
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#1958 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:10 pm

Because WV shows us the uper features which are vital in the track of Bill...in many ways its far more useful then the IR for longer term stuff.

Still does seem to have jogged westwards over the last hour but I'm betting as per normal its stair stepping, 2 north 1 west sort of thing.
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ATL : BILL (03L) Recon Thread

#1959 Postby cycloneye » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:13 pm

Starting tommorow morning at 4 AM EDT or 08:00z the first mission (P-3 plane) to Bill will take off from Barbados.

OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY: A FIX AT 19/1800Z
AND 20/0600Z ON HURRICANE BILL.

3. REMARKS: NOAA WILL BEGIN FLYING 5 RESEARCH MISSIONS
IN A ROW ON HURRICANE BILL AT 18/0800Z WITH THE P-3
AND G-IV. TAKEOFFS WILL BE EVERY 12 HOURS.

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAREPRPD.shtml?
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Re: ATL: HURRICANE BILL (03L)

#1960 Postby artist » Mon Aug 17, 2009 6:14 pm

I-wall wrote:Does anyone know where we can find the latest microwave imagery? I'm really curious to get a good look at the inner structure.

don't know if this is what you are looking for or not -

http://cimss.ssec.wisc.edu/tropic/real- ... /main.html
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