EPAC: TROPICAL DEPRESSION JIMENA (13E)

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#341 Postby x-y-no » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:27 pm

149 knots flight
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#342 Postby wxman57 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:29 pm

FWIW, I measured a 4-hr movement (15Z-19Z) of 309 deg at 9.5 kts. That's left of the forecast track.
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#343 Postby Solaris » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:31 pm

recon measured less than 930 mb in latest pass with flight winds well above 140 kts...could be a cat 5 at the moment
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#344 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:31 pm

Seems to be bombing out? Winds support 135 kt, pressure down to 926mb...
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#345 Postby Cyclenall » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:32 pm

Recon just got 149 knot flight level winds! What does 01 stand for on the last column to the right? Does this mean we have a category 5?

I also see the lowest pressure thus far found is 925.9 mb (round to 926 mb). The center splash found a slightly higher value. This is the most powerful hurricane so far this season (was there much doubt there anyways?).
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#346 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:32 pm

Solaris wrote:recon measured less than 930 mb in latest pass with flight winds well above 140 kts...could be a cat 5 at the moment


149 kt at flight level = 134 kt, with SFMR of 132. I'd go with 135 kt for an intensity right now. It seems to be in its third intensification spurt.
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#347 Postby HURAKAN » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:33 pm

10 mb between passes. More impressive stuff.
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#348 Postby RL3AO » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:35 pm

UZPN13 KNHC 311932
XXAA 81197 99183 71090 04789 99931 26808 19007 00/// ///// /////
92055 26408 19006 85801 22807 21504 70484 17858 04007 88999 77999
31313 09608 81918
61616 AF307 0113E JIMENA OB 18
62626 EYE SPL 1830N10904W 1921 MBL WND 20505 AEV 20800 DLM WND 20
501 930697 WL150 20006 078 REL 1830N10904W 191838 SPG 1829N10904W
192150 =
XXBB 81198 99183 71090 04789 00931 26808 11850 22807 22736 18222
33711 19657 44697 17458
21212 00931 19007 11850 21504 22697 04006
31313 09608 81918
61616 AF307 0113E JIMENA OB 18
62626 EYE SPL 1830N10904W 1921 MBL WND 20505 AEV 20800 DLM WND 20
501 930697 WL150 20006 078 REL 1830N10904W 191838 SPG 1829N10904W
192150 =
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Center splash = 931mb/7kt
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#349 Postby x-y-no » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:35 pm

URPN15 KNHC 311932
AF307 0113E JIMENA HDOB 45 20090831
192300 1827N 10854W 6960 02898 9748 +093 +093 136116 117 088 010 00
192330 1828N 10852W 6966 02917 9766 +108 +103 137110 112 086 006 00
192400 1829N 10851W 6965 02946 9805 +101 +094 137105 106 079 006 00
192430 1830N 10850W 6963 02970 9823 +107 +087 136102 104 074 006 00
192500 1831N 10849W 6960 02990 9862 +089 +082 137094 097 070 007 00
192530 1833N 10848W 6963 03002 9860 +106 +078 138092 093 068 007 00
192600 1834N 10846W 6966 03013 9871 +109 +075 138087 089 067 005 00
192630 1835N 10845W 6966 03022 9882 +110 +073 139087 087 065 004 00
192700 1836N 10844W 6966 03033 9902 +103 +072 141084 085 063 006 00
192730 1837N 10842W 6967 03038 9910 +102 +073 144083 083 061 005 00
192800 1839N 10841W 6966 03047 9924 +096 +073 145081 081 057 008 00
192830 1840N 10840W 6969 03049 9941 +089 +072 145078 080 058 011 00
192900 1841N 10839W 6964 03061 9944 +094 +070 141077 078 057 010 00
192930 1842N 10837W 6967 03064 9947 +097 +068 142076 077 056 004 00
193000 1843N 10836W 6966 03071 9955 +096 +066 144079 080 056 004 00
193030 1845N 10835W 6967 03075 9960 +096 +065 143078 079 055 005 00
193100 1846N 10833W 6966 03081 9963 +097 +064 141076 078 054 003 00
193130 1847N 10832W 6967 03083 9971 +094 +064 141075 076 052 005 00
193200 1848N 10831W 6969 03086 9976 +095 +066 142074 075 051 004 00
193230 1850N 10829W 6966 03092 9983 +090 +067 145075 075 051 002 00
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#350 Postby Squarethecircle » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:36 pm

135 knots certainly seems like a good estimate. But the difference in pressure between passes is sort of hard to believe - the next one should be very interesting.
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#351 Postby RL3AO » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:36 pm

UZPN13 KNHC 311932
XXAA 81197 99183 71090 04789 99931 26808 19007 00/// ///// /////
92055 26408 19006 85801 22807 21504 70484 17858 04007 88999 77999
31313 09608 81918
61616 AF307 0113E JIMENA OB 18
62626 EYE SPL 1830N10904W 1921 MBL WND 20505 AEV 20800 DLM WND 20
501 930697 WL150 20006 078 REL 1830N10904W 191838 SPG 1829N10904W
192150 =
XXBB 81198 99183 71090 04789 00931 26808 11850 22807 22736 18222
33711 19657 44697 17458
21212 00931 19007 11850 21504 22697 04006
31313 09608 81918
61616 AF307 0113E JIMENA OB 18
62626 EYE SPL 1830N10904W 1921 MBL WND 20505 AEV 20800 DLM WND 20
501 930697 WL150 20006 078 REL 1830N10904W 191838 SPG 1829N10904W
192150 =
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931mb/7kt
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#352 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:37 pm

Dropsonde confirms a 931mb pressure. Still quite a drop but more reasonable.
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#353 Postby x-y-no » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:37 pm

wow ... has it really dropped over 5mb in this short time?
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#354 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:37 pm

Squarethecircle wrote:135 knots certainly seems like a good estimate. But the difference in pressure between passes is sort of hard to believe - the next one should be very interesting.


I don't think there will be another pass, it is a long way back to the base.
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#355 Postby RL3AO » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:37 pm

I don't know if we will get another pass.
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#356 Postby craptacular » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:39 pm

Cyclenall wrote:Recon just got 149 knot flight level winds! What does 01 stand for on the last column to the right?


Those last two numbers are flags. A '01' means they question the temperature or dew point. If the second digit is anywhere from 2 to 9, then one or more of the wind speed readings are questionable.

Check out this link that describes the data:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/abouthdobs_2007.shtml
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#357 Postby KWT » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:39 pm

Hmmm just goes to show its a very powerful hurricane, I strongly suspect the NHC will upgrade this post-season if this one doesn't make hurricane at the moment.

Eye is clearing somewhat again, so does suggest its strengthening.
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#358 Postby x-y-no » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:44 pm


URPN15 KNHC 311942
AF307 0113E JIMENA HDOB 46 20090831
193300 1851N 10828W 6956 03111 9990 +088 +068 147075 076 049 002 00
193330 1852N 10826W 6971 03095 9994 +092 +071 146073 075 049 004 00
193400 1854N 10825W 6966 03110 9997 +094 +073 146071 071 047 003 00
193430 1855N 10823W 6967 03110 0006 +090 +076 147069 070 047 002 00
193500 1857N 10821W 6967 03115 0007 +093 +079 147068 068 046 003 00
193530 1859N 10820W 6965 03121 0011 +092 +082 148068 069 045 003 00
193600 1900N 10818W 6967 03121 0020 +088 +084 148068 068 045 002 00
193630 1902N 10816W 6967 03125 0028 +084 +084 149068 069 043 003 00
193700 1903N 10815W 6966 03129 0034 +082 +082 149067 067 043 003 00
193730 1905N 10813W 6965 03133 0030 +087 +086 150065 065 043 003 00
193800 1906N 10811W 6966 03133 0029 +090 +086 149064 064 041 003 00
193830 1908N 10810W 6965 03133 0025 +093 +086 149063 064 042 002 00
193900 1910N 10808W 6967 03137 0026 +096 +087 147058 059 040 003 00
193930 1911N 10806W 6964 03142 0024 +099 +089 148057 058 039 002 00
194000 1912N 10804W 6968 03138 0023 +101 +091 148057 057 038 003 00
194030 1914N 10802W 6966 03142 0022 +102 +092 150057 057 037 003 00
194100 1915N 10801W 6965 03145 0023 +102 +093 149059 059 036 003 00
194130 1916N 10759W 6966 03145 0026 +102 +094 148058 059 035 002 00
194200 1918N 10757W 6964 03150 0031 +101 +096 148057 058 032 003 00
194230 1919N 10755W 6965 03150 0027 +105 +097 148057 058 036 002 00
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#359 Postby Cyclenall » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:47 pm

craptacular wrote:
Cyclenall wrote:Recon just got 149 knot flight level winds! What does 01 stand for on the last column to the right?


Those last two numbers are flags. A '01' means they question the temperature or dew point. If the second digit is anywhere from 2 to 9, then one or more of the wind speed readings are questionable.

Check out this link that describes the data:
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/abouthdobs_2007.shtml

I read it before but it's been a while since I've seen what 01 means. Thanks.

KWT wrote:Hmmm just goes to show its a very powerful hurricane, I strongly suspect the NHC will upgrade this post-season if this one doesn't make hurricane at the moment.

What do you mean here?
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#360 Postby RL3AO » Mon Aug 31, 2009 2:50 pm

Cyclenall wrote:
KWT wrote:Hmmm just goes to show its a very powerful hurricane, I strongly suspect the NHC will upgrade this post-season if this one doesn't make hurricane at the moment.

What do you mean here?



He means category 5.
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