ATL: TROPICAL DEPRESSION ANA (02L)

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Re: ATL : EX TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO

#941 Postby MGC » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:32 am

Close to being a TD again....MGC
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Re: ATL : EX TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO

#942 Postby Thunder44 » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:34 am

wxman57 wrote:It looks better than 90L, and better than when it was classified as TD 2. So why isn't it a TD now?

Note that the upper low/trof to its NW (see WV loop) is likely enhancing the outflow and contributing to the current burst of convection. What happens after it passes the trof axis is the big question. Can it maintain the convection once it gets its engine started?


I think NHC wants to see the convection persist longer, after the burst from overnight diminished. I was just looking at water vapor loop here, and I also noticed there some dry air trying to wrap around from the south, that could cause the t-storms to diminsh this afternoon once again:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t1/loop-wv.html

Of course, if they are flying a plane this afternoon in it, they could find something to still ugprade again.
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#943 Postby Gustywind » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:36 am

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Re: ATL : EX TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO

#944 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:39 am

They will fly the G-IV which goes up around 41,000 feet.
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Re: ATL : EX TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO

#945 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:41 am

Wow it sure looks great this morning, I would think the NHC will hold off until late today to upgrade it but if convection continues to increase this could become Ana after all.
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Re: ATL : EX TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO

#946 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:45 am

QS has some 30kt uncontaminated vectors and sat presentation looks like a TD to me, we'll see if recon finds a TS, TD or what
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#947 Postby Scorpion » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:46 am

Should be Ana later today.
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Re: ATL : EX TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO

#948 Postby Thunder44 » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:47 am

cycloneye wrote:They will fly the G-IV which goes up around 41,000 feet.


I just noticed they won't fly out until 4pm EDT. And if they fly that high, they probably won't find anything.
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Re: ATL : EX TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO

#949 Postby cycloneye » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:48 am

Thunder44 wrote:
cycloneye wrote:They will fly the G-IV which goes up around 41,000 feet.


I just noticed it will go out until 4pm EDT. And if it flies that high, they probably won't find anything.


We will have to wait until Sunday afternoon when the first normal mission will take place.
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Re: ATL : EX TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO

#950 Postby Sanibel » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:49 am

This has a better surface structure than anything so far.


It is headed towards a part of the basin that has destroyed everything that touched it this year:





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#951 Postby BensonTCwatcher » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:51 am

Convection is pulsing (currently fading) but the circulation looks strong and symmetrical and some banding is trying to get going, so it might re-fire enough to get there.
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#952 Postby Derek Ortt » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:55 am

there is a P3 flight tomorrow
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#953 Postby KWT » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:56 am

Pretty decent little thing right now, if it holds this for a little while longer and I suspect we will be seeing this upgraded to a depression yet again.
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#954 Postby brunota2003 » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:57 am

The Little Engine That Could
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#955 Postby Gustywind » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:07 am

Looks correct, improving system..
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Re: ATL : EX TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO

#956 Postby Sanibel » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:11 am

I'd like to think of TD2 as a technical feature wave that happened to develop a good surface center as the first wave strong enough to do so in the overall negative conditions of 2009. If this is correct it should move into the still existing negative conditions ahead and remain a weak denuded surface feature spouting a weak center convection burst. So far the other waves before TD2 would indicate this. However one never knows when the switch will suddenly turn on and only need a spark like TD2 to set off a good cyclone. But you have to guess that TD2 is indicating the current conditions as they exist and they are still negative.
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Re: ATL : EX TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO

#957 Postby artist » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:21 am

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This thing really seems be wrapping up nicely.
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#958 Postby hurricanebuoy » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:23 am

Our local private weather service here in Houston just sent out an update saying all of the above, but they also made a statement that they believe by late next week it will cross the FL peninsula and cross into the NE GOM.
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Re: ATL : EX TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO

#959 Postby Iune » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:54 am

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#960 Postby Gustywind » Fri Aug 14, 2009 11:57 am

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