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Re: ATL : INVEST 95L - MODELS

#21 Postby xironman » Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:37 pm

You are both correct, I unfortunately cannot keep up with the storms the CMC generates.
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#22 Postby poof121 » Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:46 pm

How long after the GFS model results come in do the GFDL and HWRF results come in?
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#23 Postby xironman » Fri Jul 02, 2010 12:56 pm

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#24 Postby rockyman » Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:08 pm

The Euro resolution on Plymouth State is pretty low...but it looks like the system might move up toward SE La by 3 days (the little bend in the isobars)
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#25 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:28 pm

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Re: ATL : INVEST 95L - MODELS

#26 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:32 pm

12Z EURO has weak refelction in SE LA.
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#27 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:47 pm

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WHXX01 KWBC 021804
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1804 UTC FRI JUL 2 2010

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL952010) 20100702 1800 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
100702 1800 100703 0600 100703 1800 100704 0600

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 29.2N 84.5W 29.1N 85.7W 29.5N 87.1W 30.4N 88.4W
BAMD 29.2N 84.5W 28.2N 85.6W 27.7N 86.8W 27.4N 87.7W
BAMM 29.2N 84.5W 28.6N 85.8W 28.6N 87.0W 28.9N 88.0W
LBAR 29.2N 84.5W 28.6N 84.9W 28.4N 86.0W 28.7N 87.0W
SHIP 20KTS 22KTS 26KTS 26KTS
DSHP 20KTS 22KTS 26KTS 26KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
100704 1800 100705 1800 100706 1800 100707 1800

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 31.6N 89.2W 34.4N 89.6W 38.0N 87.8W 41.1N 85.8W
BAMD 27.4N 88.5W 27.8N 90.3W 28.6N 93.0W 29.5N 95.9W
BAMM 29.4N 88.5W 30.8N 89.2W 32.5N 89.6W 33.9N 90.8W
LBAR 29.2N 87.8W 30.7N 88.6W 32.0N 88.7W 33.4N 88.9W
SHIP 26KTS 22KTS 19KTS 18KTS
DSHP 26KTS 22KTS 22KTS 26KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 29.2N LONCUR = 84.5W DIRCUR = 220DEG SPDCUR = 5KT
LATM12 = 30.2N LONM12 = 83.6W DIRM12 = 225DEG SPDM12 = 4KT
LATM24 = 30.6N LONM24 = 82.9W
WNDCUR = 20KT RMAXWD = 15NM WNDM12 = 20KT
CENPRS = 1015MB OUTPRS = 1018MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = D
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM

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#28 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 02, 2010 1:48 pm

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                    *   ATLANTIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST       *
                    *      GOES DATA AVAILABLE                  *
                    *      OHC  DATA AVAILABLE                  *
                    *  INVEST      AL952010  07/02/10  18 UTC   *

TIME (HR)          0     6    12    18    24    36    48    60    72    84    96   108   120
V (KT) NO LAND    20    21    22    24    26    26    26    24    22    19    19    18    18
V (KT) LAND       20    21    22    24    26    26    26    24    22    20    22    25    26
V (KT) LGE mod    20    20    20    20    20    19    17    16    16    17    20    25    26

SHEAR (KT)        28    31    38    36    28    33    23    24    23    24    30    42    12
SHEAR ADJ (KT)    -2     0     0    -3     0     2     2     2     1     4     2     1    -1
SHEAR DIR        327   324   341   353   356   357    19     7    27    14     2     5    43
SST (C)         30.3  30.4  30.5  30.4  30.3  30.2  30.2  30.4  30.7  30.9  30.4  28.6  27.4
POT. INT. (KT)   169   168   169   170   170   169   168   169   169   171   172   146   130
ADJ. POT. INT.   144   143   149   152   150   145   141   146   152   162   155   126   112
200 MB T (C)   -52.6 -51.3 -51.5 -51.6 -51.1 -50.3 -50.5 -50.6 -50.7 -50.8 -51.4 -52.6 -52.9
TH_E DEV (C)       9    10     7     7     8     7    10     8    10     8    10     7     8
700-500 MB RH     53    52    49    53    53    55    58    60    59    60    59    58    48
GFS VTEX (KT)      5     5     6     7     8     6     8     7     6     4     4     4     5
850 MB ENV VOR   -52   -57   -92  -108   -90  -100   -51   -70   -55   -77   -33   -38    -3
200 MB DIV       -11   -16   -20    19    21    -1    17    14    -3     0    16    32    24
LAND (KM)         72    82    94   119   183   174   155    88    16    33   -79  -255  -186
LAT (DEG N)     29.2  29.1  28.9  28.7  28.5  27.8  27.8  28.3  29.1  30.1  31.2  32.4  33.7
LONG(DEG W)     84.5  84.8  85.0  85.9  86.7  88.3  88.7  89.3  89.9  89.0  86.5  84.4  81.9
STM SPEED (KT)     4     3     5     8     7     5     3     4     5     9    11    12    12
HEAT CONTENT      10    17    27    41    50    44    45    57    14     2    37     0     0

  FORECAST TRACK FROM OFCI      INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):220/  5      CX,CY:  -2/ -3
  T-12 MAX WIND:  20            PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB):  638  (MEAN=624)
  GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV.  50-200 KM RAD:  22.2 (MEAN=14.5)
  % GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C    50-200 KM RAD:  34.0 (MEAN=65.0)

                        INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
                         6   12   18   24   36   48   60   72   84   96  108  120
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE     1.   2.   3.   4.   6.   8.   9.  11.  11.  12.  13.  13.
  SST POTENTIAL          0.  -1.  -1.   1.   5.  13.  21.  27.  33.  37.  40.  41.
  VERTICAL SHEAR MAG     2.   5.   8.   9.   9.   5.  -1.  -6.  -9. -11. -14. -16.
  VERTICAL SHEAR ADJ     0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
  VERTICAL SHEAR DIR     0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -3.
  PERSISTENCE            0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.   0.   0.   0.
  200/250 MB TEMP.       0.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -3.  -5.  -6.  -7.  -8.  -9. -10. -10.
  THETA_E EXCESS         0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -4.  -5.  -5.  -7.
  700-500 MB RH          0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.
  GFS VORTEX TENDENCY    0.   0.   1.   1.   1.   1.   0.   0.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -2.
  850 MB ENV VORTICITY  -1.  -1.  -2.  -3.  -4.  -5.  -7.  -8.  -9. -10. -10.  -9.
  200 MB DIVERGENCE      0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.  -2.  -3.  -3.  -3.  -2.  -2.
  ZONAL STORM MOTION     0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.
  STEERING LEVEL PRES    0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
  DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.  -1.   0.  -1.
  GOES PREDICTORS       -1.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -3.  -4.  -4.  -4.  -5.  -4.  -4.  -3.
  OCEAN HEAT CONTENT     0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.   0.
                        ----------------------------------------------------------
  TOTAL CHANGE           1.   2.   4.   6.   6.   6.   4.   2.  -1.  -1.  -2.  -2.

   ** 2010 ATLANTIC RI INDEX AL952010 INVEST     07/02/10  18 UTC **
           ( 30 KT OR MORE MAX WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24 HR)
 
 12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT):   0.0 Range:-45.0 to  30.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.6/  1.3
 850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) :  32.2 Range: 26.2 to   3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.0/  0.0
 D200 (10**7s-1)       :  -1.4 Range:-21.0 to 140.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.1/  0.2
 POT = MPI-VMAX (KT)   : 127.7 Range: 33.5 to 126.5 Scaled/Wgted Val:  1.0/  0.7
 850-700 MB REL HUM (%):  65.8 Range: 56.0 to  85.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.3/  0.2
 % area w/pixels <-30 C:  30.0 Range: 17.0 to 100.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.2/  0.0
 STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP :  22.2 Range: 30.6 to   3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.3/  0.5
 Heat content (KJ/cm2) :  29.0 Range:  0.0 to 130.0 Scaled/Wgted Val:  0.2/  0.0
 
 Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold=    12% is   1.0 times the sample mean(12.6%)
 Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold=     3% is   0.3 times the sample mean( 8.1%)
 Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold=     1% is   0.3 times the sample mean( 4.8%)
 Prob of RI for 40 kt RI threshold=     1% is   0.3 times the sample mean( 3.4%)

   ##         ANNULAR HURRICANE INDEX (AHI) AL952010 INVEST     07/02/10  18 UTC         ##
   ## STORM NOT ANNULAR, SCREENING STEP FAILED, NPASS=3 NFAIL=4                          ##
   ## AHI=  0   (AHI OF 100 IS BEST FIT TO ANN. STRUC., 1 IS MARGINAL, 0 IS NOT ANNULAR) ##
   ##     ANNULAR INDEX RAN NORMALLY             

** PROBLTY OF AT LEAST 1 SCNDRY EYEWL FORMTN EVENT AL952010 INVEST     07/02/2010  18 UTC **
TIME(HR)   0-12  12-24(0-24)  24-36(0-36)  36-48(0-48)
CLIMO(%)     0      0(  0)       0(  0)       0(  0)     <-- PROB BASED ON INTENSITY ONLY
PROB(%)      0      0(  0)       0(  0)       0(  0)     <-- FULL MODEL PROB (RAN NORMALLY)
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#29 Postby thetruesms » Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:07 pm

09Z SREF takes a very weak low on a tour of the Gulf Coast, waiting on the 15Z
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Re: ATL : INVEST 95L - MODELS

#30 Postby poof121 » Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:14 pm

Looks like there's pretty good model agreement that this is going to visit NOLA, but intensity varies. And we all know how good intensity forecasts are... :roll:
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#31 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 02, 2010 2:55 pm

Yep models are in decent agreement on the broad track of this system, and most models don't really make this much more then a TD either which makes sense given the evolution its going to have to undertake plus the shear present.
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#32 Postby poof121 » Fri Jul 02, 2010 3:01 pm

Shear seems to be on the decrease however. I wonder if it will decrease enough to allow this to consolidate.
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#33 Postby rockyman » Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:22 pm

thetruesms wrote:09Z SREF takes a very weak low on a tour of the Gulf Coast, waiting on the 15Z


15z is basically the same thing...taking the system just offshore all the way from FL Panhandle to western Lousiana, then washes the system out.
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#34 Postby LaBreeze » Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:24 pm

rockyman wrote:
thetruesms wrote:09Z SREF takes a very weak low on a tour of the Gulf Coast, waiting on the 15Z


15z is basically the same thing...taking the system just offshore all the way from FL Panhandle to western Lousiana, then washes the system out.


Will be glad to wash it out ~ just hope that it hasn't done any more mess with the oil by the time it reaches here.
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#35 Postby KWT » Fri Jul 02, 2010 4:41 pm

Yeah rockyman, and looking at the sat.imagery looks like that model idea may well come off as well from the looks of things.

Models still in broad agreement about the evolution of the system and take it westwards be curving it back towards land near NO.
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#36 Postby HURAKAN » Fri Jul 02, 2010 7:42 pm

363
WHXX01 KWBC 030021
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0021 UTC SAT JUL 3 2010

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL952010) 20100703 0000 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
100703 0000 100703 1200 100704 0000 100704 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 28.8N 85.1W 28.7N 86.6W 29.0N 88.3W 30.1N 89.5W
BAMD 28.8N 85.1W 28.0N 86.3W 27.4N 87.5W 27.1N 88.5W
BAMM 28.8N 85.1W 28.2N 86.6W 28.0N 88.1W 28.1N 89.1W
LBAR 28.8N 85.1W 28.2N 86.1W 28.3N 87.2W 28.7N 88.2W
SHIP 20KTS 21KTS 24KTS 25KTS
DSHP 20KTS 21KTS 24KTS 25KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
100705 0000 100706 0000 100707 0000 100708 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 31.1N 90.2W 33.8N 90.7W 36.0N 91.6W 37.4N 94.5W
BAMD 27.0N 89.4W 27.3N 91.4W 27.6N 94.5W 28.1N 97.9W
BAMM 28.4N 89.8W 29.3N 90.6W 30.1N 92.4W 31.1N 95.8W
LBAR 29.4N 88.9W 30.4N 89.6W 31.7N 90.3W 33.6N 91.1W
SHIP 26KTS 22KTS 21KTS 0KTS
DSHP 23KTS 26KTS 27KTS 0KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 28.8N LONCUR = 85.1W DIRCUR = 225DEG SPDCUR = 6KT
LATM12 = 29.8N LONM12 = 84.0W DIRM12 = 218DEG SPDM12 = 6KT
LATM24 = 30.4N LONM24 = 83.3W
WNDCUR = 20KT RMAXWD = 20NM WNDM12 = 20KT
CENPRS = 1013MB OUTPRS = 1016MB OUTRAD = 130NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM

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#37 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Fri Jul 02, 2010 9:29 pm

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#38 Postby ravyrn » Fri Jul 02, 2010 10:24 pm

I am finding myself quite weary of humid and rainy weather. I guess humid and cloudy is better than humid and sunny. But still, I'd love for just a literal breath of "fresh (dry) air"!
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#39 Postby rockyman » Sat Jul 03, 2010 7:08 am

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#40 Postby RachelAnna » Sat Jul 03, 2010 10:26 am

rockyman wrote:Image


Looks like H-Town needs to watch this?! Doesn't look like it really develops though, right? "Just" a rainmaker?
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