ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION TWO - MODELS

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#201 Postby Ikester » Tue Jul 06, 2010 6:45 pm

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KWT wrote:I'm not so sure thats true though Ikester, quite a few of the models did show a hurricane, I know of several GFDL runs that got upto 100kts and in that case they actually were too strong with it.

Then again I do know what you mean, quite a decent percentage didn't go strong enough with Alex, but then again conditions are more condusive for Alex and it was way more advanced at this point then 96L is.

good point KWT.. and also keep in mind how long Alex was in the GoM for.. 96L is moving at a pretty decent trek.. I just think its going to run out of time before it can get its act together.. which is good news for texas..

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This has the potential to SINK Houston in a ton of flood water. Some areas of the city had between 7 and 15" of rain last Friday. If we get that kind of rainfall again, organized system or not, we're done. Thank God I have floaties...
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#202 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:43 pm

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WHXX01 KWBC 070038
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
0038 UTC WED JUL 7 2010

DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.

ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR

DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL962010) 20100707 0000 UTC

...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
100707 0000 100707 1200 100708 0000 100708 1200

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 21.0N 89.9W 22.1N 92.2W 23.2N 94.3W 24.1N 96.2W
BAMD 21.0N 89.9W 21.8N 91.5W 22.5N 93.2W 23.1N 95.1W
BAMM 21.0N 89.9W 22.0N 91.8W 22.9N 93.8W 23.7N 95.7W
LBAR 21.0N 89.9W 22.0N 92.1W 23.5N 94.5W 25.2N 97.1W
SHIP 25KTS 28KTS 35KTS 41KTS
DSHP 25KTS 31KTS 38KTS 43KTS

...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
100709 0000 100710 0000 100711 0000 100712 0000

LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 24.9N 98.2W 26.1N 102.0W 27.3N 105.8W 28.7N 109.0W
BAMD 23.6N 96.9W 24.4N 100.9W 25.1N 105.4W 26.4N 109.7W
BAMM 24.4N 97.7W 25.6N 101.6W 26.8N 105.7W 28.2N 109.2W
LBAR 26.8N 99.4W 30.5N 102.0W 33.1N 101.1W 34.4N 98.0W
SHIP 48KTS 59KTS 65KTS 66KTS
DSHP 34KTS 27KTS 27KTS 27KTS

...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 21.0N LONCUR = 89.9W DIRCUR = 290DEG SPDCUR = 12KT
LATM12 = 20.2N LONM12 = 87.6W DIRM12 = 292DEG SPDM12 = 11KT
LATM24 = 19.3N LONM24 = 85.8W
WNDCUR = 25KT RMAXWD = 75NM WNDM12 = 30KT
CENPRS = 1007MB OUTPRS = 1009MB OUTRAD = 150NM SDEPTH = M
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM

$$
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#203 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:44 pm

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#204 Postby lonelymike » Tue Jul 06, 2010 7:46 pm

Ikester wrote:
Nederlander wrote:
KWT wrote:I'm not so sure thats true though Ikester, quite a few of the models did show a hurricane, I know of several GFDL runs that got upto 100kts and in that case they actually were too strong with it.

Then again I do know what you mean, quite a decent percentage didn't go strong enough with Alex, but then again conditions are more condusive for Alex and it was way more advanced at this point then 96L is.

good point KWT.. and also keep in mind how long Alex was in the GoM for.. 96L is moving at a pretty decent trek.. I just think its going to run out of time before it can get its act together.. which is good news for texas..

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This has the potential to SINK Houston in a ton of flood water. Some areas of the city had between 7 and 15" of rain last Friday. If we get that kind of rainfall again, organized system or not, we're done. Thank God I have floaties...



Thought Texas needed the rain?
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - MODELS

#205 Postby lrak » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:01 pm

I think SE Texas is the wettest spot in the state, its the rest of us that could use a drink.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - MODELS

#206 Postby redfish1 » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:02 pm

why did the models shift so much more south today???
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - MODELS

#207 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:17 pm

redfish1 wrote:why did the models shift so much more south today???



They were initialized near the MLC coming off the Yucatan. There is another low pressure max in the central gulf right now that some of the models were following yesterday. There is nothing organized yet so it depends on what area you want to follow at this point. The NHC seems to think the MLC on the southern side has the best shot right now
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#208 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Jul 06, 2010 8:22 pm

:uarrow: I would add that the weaker it remains, the farther west it's likely to travel.
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#209 Postby Portastorm » Tue Jul 06, 2010 9:33 pm

lonelymike wrote:

Thought Texas needed the rain?


Parts of Texas do need the rain but not the Houston area. Believe it or not, portions of central, north central, and far east Texas are showing rainfall deficits right now.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - MODELS

#210 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:55 pm

gfs 0z ops 48h

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#211 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Jul 06, 2010 10:56 pm

0z gfs para 42h

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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - MODELS

#212 Postby ROCK » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:06 pm

I am sure glad I dont have to stay up for any late night EURO runs.... :D

then again I am sure we will have plenty in a few weeks...
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#213 Postby southerngale » Tue Jul 06, 2010 11:07 pm

lonelymike wrote:Thought Texas needed the rain?
We sure don't need any more rain in SE TX, Beaumont area. We've gotten plenty lately and are saturated!
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - MODELS

#214 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:11 am

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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - MODELS

#215 Postby Ivanhater » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:15 am

HWRF is stronger

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#216 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:19 am

for that to verify, it would need a big jumpstart & do so rapidly.
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#217 Postby southerngale » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:20 am

It's a much better consensus than with Alex. Maybe it will stay that way.
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#218 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:24 am

ivan, where do u get those graphics? look great!
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - MODELS

#219 Postby Duddy » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:28 am

WxWarrior, that image isn't loading. It's just a missing image placeholder.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 96L - MODELS

#220 Postby Wx_Warrior » Wed Jul 07, 2010 12:30 am

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