ATL : TROPICAL DEPRESSION ALEX - RECON DISCUSSION

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Re: ATL : HURRICANE ALEX - RECON DISCUSSION

#341 Postby americanre1 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:09 pm

KWT how strong do you think this storm will become, since it looks like it has 8 to 16 hours minimum still over water???
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Re: ATL : HURRICANE ALEX - RECON DISCUSSION

#342 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 30, 2010 1:50 pm

Second pass from SE to NW comming in minutes.
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#343 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:03 pm

Center a little to the NW of what was expected, winds upto 76kts at the surface of the NW eyewall...I think we may well end up finding winds high enough to justify category-2 in the NE eyewall....just....
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Re: ATL : HURRICANE ALEX - RECON DISCUSSION

#344 Postby cycloneye » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:04 pm

963 mbs lowest at pass from SE to NW.
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#345 Postby Thunder44 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:19 pm

KWT wrote:Center a little to the NW of what was expected, winds upto 76kts at the surface of the NW eyewall...I think we may well end up finding winds high enough to justify category-2 in the NE eyewall....just....


I think it's starting feel the effects of the ridge building to the north. It's speeding up and making a sharp left turn now. I think it will make landfall near Puerto de Alambre,MX early tonight, with winds near 105mph.

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Re: ATL : HURRICANE ALEX - RECON DISCUSSION

#346 Postby tolakram » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:48 pm

Here we go, important run through the NE eyewall.
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#347 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:53 pm

The key number for an upgrade to Cat 2 in the FL wind column: 104 kt. (SFMR of 83 kt would also do it)
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#348 Postby HURAKAN » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:55 pm

crazy, are u taking over the HDOBs?
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#349 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:57 pm

HURAKAN wrote:crazy, are u taking over the HDOBs?


Yeah I mentioned that in a previous post that I was only going for a short bit (about 20 minutes in the end). Please continue with graphics though as I don't know how to do them.
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#350 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 2:58 pm

Well its now or never for this system, probably won't get another shot to get a category-2 I reckon given the dry moat developing and the fact its getting rather close to land now...
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#351 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:06 pm

The next 2 passes should tell the tale (the first pass = inner maxima, second pass = outer maxima). Need 104 or 83. The 01 in the last column means the temperature/dewpoint is questionable, 05 means BOTH temperature/dewpoint and SFMR are questionable.
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Re: ATL : HURRICANE ALEX - RECON DISCUSSION

#352 Postby tolakram » Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:09 pm

Looks like they may have missed the center by a bit, plus they will not be flying through the heaviest squalls. In my opinion.
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#353 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:30 pm

Well looks like they haven't found the winds to justify category-2 so looks like Alex will remain a category-1 upon landfall...

Also moving due west more or less between the last vortex statements.
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#354 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 3:53 pm

Looks like recon may just about get one chance to go through the NE eyewall before the system goes inland and the aircraft has to fly back to base.

Heading for the NW eyewall...will be interesting to see what they find.
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Re: ATL : HURRICANE ALEX - RECON DISCUSSION

#355 Postby tolakram » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:13 pm

Straight down, this should be interesting.
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#356 Postby KWT » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:24 pm

Pressure *much* lower this pass....but still not winds that can justify an upgrade.
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#357 Postby CrazyC83 » Wed Jun 30, 2010 4:25 pm

Normally, 956mb equates about 105 kt. Quite a difference off normal here still.
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Re: ATL : HURRICANE ALEX - RECON DISCUSSION

#358 Postby ROCK » Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:08 pm

108 fl winds? 955MB?
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#359 Postby SunnyThoughts » Wed Jun 30, 2010 5:18 pm

Recon is making another pass
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Re: ATL : HURRICANE ALEX - RECON DISCUSSION

#360 Postby Chris_in_Tampa » Wed Jun 30, 2010 6:31 pm

CrazyC83 wrote:One last shot at the center?
Since there does not seem to be enough time for another flight to get out there before landfall, however long this flight can stay out is probably all the additional reconnaissance we will get.
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