ATL: Ex-Tropical Storm GASTON - Discussion

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Re: ATL: Invest 98L - Discussion

#61 Postby ColinDelia » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:32 pm

Duke95 wrote:So it's obvious (or obviously confusing) that the CMC is actually developing the wave that has been discussed at length on the TT board and not 98L.

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It appears to develop both. Here is 144 hours
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/cmctc2.c ... hour=144hr

98L at 50 W (after not moving for a few days)
The other wave at 25 W
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L - Discussion

#62 Postby Vortex » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:36 pm

Latest visible indicates continued improvement in organization...This has the potential to be a classic cape verde storm...Large envelope and a developing LLC with convection beginning to fire near the center...Looking at the current/forecasted synoptics a well established sub-tropical ridge too the north will remain in place for the next 5-7 days as the system tracks w/wnw...Cyclones with large envelops typically develop slower...However, given low shear and warmer sst's with each passing day this stands a good chance to become Gaston. Long-term ridging is well established a week out along the east coast and west atlantic...The devils in the details but this appears to be a developing long classic cape verde storm.....
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L - Discussion

#63 Postby South Texas Storms » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:39 pm

vortex you think this is caribbean bound and then possibly gom?
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L - Discussion

#64 Postby Vortex » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:41 pm

:uarrow: The pattern would suggest either through the carribean or just north of the antilles...Long-term it certianly looks to get very far west looking at the pattern 7-10 days down the road. If that pattern verifies :D
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L - Discussion

#65 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:41 pm

18z Best Track

AL, 98, 2010083118, , BEST, 0, 120N, 310W, 25, 1009, DB

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Re: ATL: Invest 98L - Discussion

#66 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:41 pm

18z Best Track

AL, 98, 2010083118, , BEST, 0, 120N, 310W, 25, 1009, DB

ftp://ftp.tpc.ncep.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/ ... 010.invest

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Re: ATL: Invest 98L - Discussion

#67 Postby South Texas Storms » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:42 pm

yeah still a long ways out. but i guess this has the best chance of any of the systems out there right now to reach the gom...unless we get some home brew system.
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L - Discussion

#68 Postby ColinDelia » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:50 pm

Convection looked better and more concentrated 12 hours ago. Dvorak numbers were 1.5/1.5 12 hours ago, 1.0,1.5 now.
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#69 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:52 pm

after looking at it for a while.. there is very little evidence of anything at the surface.. there is however a very vigorous mid level circ and it some more convection develops with the mid level it could work to the surface.. I imagine the lack of a surface feature is why the nhc held the 10%. the model support has improved with the 12z run so maybe at 8pm they will up it to 20% especially if the convection can increase with the mid level.
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#70 Postby HURAKAN » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:53 pm

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Re: ATL: Invest 98L - Discussion

#71 Postby ColinDelia » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:57 pm

12 hours ago.
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#72 Postby Aric Dunn » Tue Aug 31, 2010 1:58 pm

all that convection from 12 hours ago was all ITCZ convection in that image you can see the mid level circ to the east of that convection..
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L - Discussion

#73 Postby ROCK » Tue Aug 31, 2010 2:06 pm

Vortex wrote:Latest visible indicates continued improvement in organization...This has the potential to be a classic cape verde storm...Large envelope and a developing LLC with convection beginning to fire near the center...Looking at the current/forecasted synoptics a well established sub-tropical ridge too the north will remain in place for the next 5-7 days as the system tracks w/wnw...Cyclones with large envelops typically develop slower...However, given low shear and warmer sst's with each passing day this stands a good chance to become Gaston. Long-term ridging is well established a week out along the east coast and west atlantic...The devils in the details but this appears to be a developing long classic cape verde storm.....



I agree....I am thinking carib bound with that set-up aloft...
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L - Discussion

#75 Postby SouthFloridawx » Tue Aug 31, 2010 3:03 pm

Looks like it could get more than a 10% chance at the next update.

Loop RGB: http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/flt/t3/flash-rgb.html

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Re: ATL: Invest 98L - Discussion

#76 Postby ColinDelia » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:02 pm

I see what you're saying Aric. I believe it looks about like this. Yeah?

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It'll be interesting to see if convection continues to increase near the low. Doesn't take so much to get going during peak season.
I'm willing to turn bullish on a dime ;-)
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#77 Postby KWT » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:08 pm

System is trying to get going but there is a heck of alot of SAL/dry air all around it and the models aren't that keen on it...may end up being like 93L which had a decent circulation but just couldn't hold the convection for long enough.
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L - Discussion

#78 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:26 pm

I like the transition that has occurred today from a stout ITCZ feature to a separate low.

I'm a bit more bullish on this today. Still has some obstacles to overcome, but it is peak season.
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#79 Postby ColinDelia » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:34 pm

Agree with last two posts. Will just have to keep watching
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Re: ATL: Invest 98L - Discussion

#80 Postby Ivanhater » Tue Aug 31, 2010 4:36 pm

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