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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#741 Postby TheBurn » Fri Jul 23, 2010 8:14 am

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#742 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:05 am

THE ENVIRONMENT IN THE GULF OF MEXICO IS NOT
FAVORABLE FOR ANY SIGNIFICANT STRENGTHENING AND IN FACT...GLOBAL
AND HURRICANE DYNAMICAL MODELS INSIST ON WEAKENING OR EVEN
DISSIPATING THE CYCLONE GRADUALLY.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#743 Postby ROCK » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:17 am

KFDM Meteorologist wrote:THE ENVIRONMENT IN THE GULF OF MEXICO IS NOT
FAVORABLE FOR ANY SIGNIFICANT STRENGTHENING AND IN FACT...GLOBAL
AND HURRICANE DYNAMICAL MODELS INSIST ON WEAKENING OR EVEN
DISSIPATING THE CYCLONE GRADUALLY.



have to agree...be interesting to see whats left if anything after exit....good news for the oil spill areas...
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#744 Postby Frank2 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:53 am

True enough - not too often that we see such a large ULL covering almost the entire Gulf...

My guess is that Bonnie's toast...
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#745 Postby KFDM Meteorologist » Fri Jul 23, 2010 10:56 am

Probably good guess!
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#746 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:01 am

The damage is already done. Being under a tropical storm warning right now, the oil spill clean up has been severely hampered. This is not good news for the oil spill area. BTW, the track forecast has been horrible with this system, what makes anyone think intensity will be even better.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#747 Postby Stormcenter » Fri Jul 23, 2010 11:20 am

Funny but good points concerning Bonnie's track forecast and future intensity.
As I stated before in another post tropical systems don't always follow the rules
and sometimes have something up their sleeves. Not saying it will happen with Bonnie
but just that you never know with these things.


Ivanhater wrote:The damage is already done. Being under a tropical storm warning right now, the oil spill clean up has been severely hampered. This is not good news for the oil spill area. BTW, the track forecast has been horrible with this system, what makes anyone think intensity will be even better.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#748 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:09 pm

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#749 Postby DTWright » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:15 pm

Now that's right in our backyard there. What strength is it showing there IH?

Thanks Brother
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#750 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:22 pm

That looks about 50mph.
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#751 Postby DTWright » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:23 pm

That's about what I was thinking. Are the new runs starting to come out now? Thanks
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#752 Postby ROCK » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:26 pm

Ivanhater wrote:The damage is already done. Being under a tropical storm warning right now, the oil spill clean up has been severely hampered. This is not good news for the oil spill area. BTW, the track forecast has been horrible with this system, what makes anyone think intensity will be even better.



Good news for the oil spill area is that you dont have a hurricane with a 15ft storm surge.. :D ..all you will have is a passing t-storm and some wind. Might even help break up any oil remaining out there....
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#753 Postby DTWright » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:30 pm

True Rock, but even a 3ft - 4ft surge would basically suck for the beaches from Panama City all the way to the MGC
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#754 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:30 pm

ROCK wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:The damage is already done. Being under a tropical storm warning right now, the oil spill clean up has been severely hampered. This is not good news for the oil spill area. BTW, the track forecast has been horrible with this system, what makes anyone think intensity will be even better.



Good news for the oil spill area is that you dont have a hurricane with a 15ft storm surge.. :D ..all you will have is a passing t-storm and some wind. Might even help break up any oil remaining out there....


That's the truth Rock, but just the halt in cleanup and being under a tropical storm warning just adds to the insult. Pensacola for instance depends on tourism on our beaches during the summer months.

Come soon enough we will be tracking the big ones.

I still don't turn my back on these small systems, they can ramp up fast with any relaxation in the upper winds and that can be hard to predict sometimes.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#755 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:36 pm

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#756 Postby tolakram » Fri Jul 23, 2010 12:49 pm

Did the GFDL initialize over Florida, or south of Florida?

Canadian loses it, so I suspect Bonnie is either going to be extremely small or gone.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#757 Postby cycloneye » Fri Jul 23, 2010 1:29 pm

18z Tropical Models.

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TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
1813 UTC FRI JUL 23 2010
 
DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.
 
ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR
 
TROPICAL CYCLONE BONNIE (AL032010) 20100723 1800 UTC
 
        ...00 HRS...   ...12 HRS...   ...24 HRS. ..   ...36 HRS...
        100723  1800   100724  0600   100724  1800   100725  0600
 
         LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON
BAMS    25.8N  81.1W   26.8N  83.6W   28.2N  86.0W   29.4N  88.1W
BAMD    25.8N  81.1W   27.7N  84.8W   30.2N  88.3W   33.0N  90.4W
BAMM    25.8N  81.1W   27.1N  84.2W   29.0N  87.1W   30.8N  89.4W
LBAR    25.8N  81.1W   27.4N  84.4W   29.4N  87.6W   31.7N  89.8W
SHIP        30KTS          31KTS          35KTS          37KTS
DSHP        30KTS          33KTS          37KTS          40KTS
 
        ...48 HRS...   ...72 HRS...   ...96 HRS. ..   ..120 HRS...
        100725  1800   100726  1800   100727  1800   100728  1800
 
         LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON     LAT    LON
BAMS    30.6N  89.8W   32.9N  92.7W   35.8N  94.3W   39.4N  94.4W
BAMD    35.3N  91.1W   38.1N  87.9W   37.8N  79.4W   34.7N  71.4W
BAMM    32.7N  90.8W   35.8N  91.7W   38.2N  88.8W   38.0N  82.7W
LBAR    33.8N  90.3W   36.5N  86.4W   37.1N  77.2W   36.5N  64.8W
SHIP        40KTS          42KTS          45KTS          47KTS
DSHP        31KTS          27KTS          27KTS          28KTS
 
         ...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR =  25.8N LONCUR =  81.1W DIRCUR = 300DEG SPDCUR =  18KT
LATM12 =  23.8N LONM12 =  77.8W DIRM12 = 297DEG SPDM12 =  19KT
LATM24 =  22.2N LONM24 =  74.9W
WNDCUR =   30KT RMAXWD =   35NM WNDM12 =   35KT
CENPRS = 1008MB OUTPRS = 1013MB OUTRAD =  150NM SDEPTH =   M
RD34NE =    0NM RD34SE =    0NM RD34SW =    0NM RD34NW =   0NM

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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#758 Postby smw1981 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:26 pm

The models have been trending east with almost every run..we could use the rain (here in Mobile, AL), so I am hoping that she hits as a weak TS just to our west!
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#759 Postby petit_bois » Fri Jul 23, 2010 2:34 pm

smw1981 wrote:The models have been trending east with almost every run..we could use the rain (here in Mobile, AL), so I am hoping that she hits as a weak TS just to our west!


Need the rain but don't need the oil that would likely come ashore with it...
we just can't win.

I kind of like the idea of a strong TS coming in around Panama City giving us a strong north wind that pushes all the oil deep into the gulf and away from us... But then... that woudn't be nice to whom ever would have to deal with it then...
Just a no win situation. Thank God it doesn't matter what we want a storm to do... they just do what they do... wishacsting or not.
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Re: ATL : TROPICAL STORM BONNIE - MODELS

#760 Postby lebron23 » Fri Jul 23, 2010 3:01 pm

Somewhere between New Orleans and Mobile should get a 40-50 MPH storm.
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