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Re: ATL : INVEST 90L

#81 Postby wxman57 » Sun May 23, 2010 8:44 am

I don't think this low will amount to much. Will probably drift NW over the next 2-3 days but with some continued westerly shear, most effects should remain offshore. Probably won't get named.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 90L

#82 Postby HURAKAN » Sun May 23, 2010 9:30 am

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#83 Postby HURAKAN » Sun May 23, 2010 9:41 am

23/1145 UTC 24.5N 70.0W TOO WEAK 90L -- Atlantic

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#84 Postby brunota2003 » Sun May 23, 2010 9:49 am

It'll be getting T#'s soon enough though, from the looks of it! Wish we had QuikScat to view this system!
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Re: ATL : INVEST 90L

#85 Postby dolebot_Broward_NW » Sun May 23, 2010 10:04 am

Looks like a yin-yang
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#86 Postby HURAKAN » Sun May 23, 2010 10:09 am

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#87 Postby HURAKAN » Sun May 23, 2010 10:37 am

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Re: ATL : INVEST 90L

#88 Postby Patrick99 » Sun May 23, 2010 10:59 am

Looks good, but I hope it kicks out of the way ASAP, as it's helping squash any chance of rain for S FL...making the weather here quite boring.
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#89 Postby HURAKAN » Sun May 23, 2010 11:10 am

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Re: ATL : INVEST 90L

#90 Postby HURAKAN » Sun May 23, 2010 11:59 am

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Looks to be on its way
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#91 Postby HURAKAN » Sun May 23, 2010 12:06 pm

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You can see the dry air
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#92 Postby Pedro Fernández » Sun May 23, 2010 12:12 pm

Wind shear has dropped to only 10 KT over the system (CIMSS), while it was aorund 30-40 in the map before... 8-)

Deep convection is closer and closer of the LLCC.
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#93 Postby KWT » Sun May 23, 2010 12:14 pm

Not a bad little convective burst from 90L, I've few doubts the NHC are taking a close look at this system with convection slightly strengthening again....
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#94 Postby JonathanBelles » Sun May 23, 2010 12:18 pm

Pedro Fernández wrote:Wind shear has dropped to only 10 KT over the system (CIMSS), while it was aorund 30-40 in the map before... 8-)

Deep convection is closer and closer of the LLCC.


I was waiting for someone to comment on that. This low seems to be making its own shear drought. The area around the low has the lowest shear in the Atlantic, and shear continues to fall. I'm quite confused by it over all. Even with the lower shear, the vertical column from the LLC to MLC is very tilted from SW to NE.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 90L

#95 Postby Macrocane » Sun May 23, 2010 12:21 pm

It reminds me to the early extratropical stage of 2007 subtropical storm Andrea with plenty of dry air to its west and plenty of moisture to its east and there are no analyzed fronts attached to it, so I still think it has a chance to develop although conditions need to improve a little more and I'm not sure that it will happen.
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#96 Postby Pedro Fernández » Sun May 23, 2010 12:25 pm

fact789 wrote:
Pedro Fernández wrote:Wind shear has dropped to only 10 KT over the system (CIMSS), while it was aorund 30-40 in the map before... 8-)

Deep convection is closer and closer of the LLCC.


I was waiting for someone to comment on that. This low seems to be making its own shear drought. The area around the low has the lowest shear in the Atlantic, and shear continues to fall. I'm quite confused by it over all. Even with the lower shear, the vertical column from the LLC to MLC is very tilted from SW to NE.


Hmmm... Perhaps the low needs a few time to feel the lower shear in its structure... I'm sure if this low shear persists, we could see a tropical transition. If there is enough time to make it.
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#97 Postby KWT » Sun May 23, 2010 12:28 pm

fact789 wrote: Even with the lower shear, the vertical column from the LLC to MLC is very tilted from SW to NE.


It doesn't seem to be very well stacked at all and IMO still has a classic shear signature, the shear does seem to have decreased compared with yesterday but its still at the top end of what you'd like it to be to get some sort of development.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 90L

#98 Postby cycloneye » Sun May 23, 2010 12:37 pm

From 2:05 PM EDT discussion:

SPECIAL FEATURES...

A SURFACE TROUGH EXTENDS FROM 27N69W THROUGH A WEAKENING 1008 MB
LOW NEAR 25N70W TO THE TURKS AND CAICOS NEAR 22N72W. SATELLITE
SUGGESTS THAT A SECOND LOW IS DEVELOPING TO THE NORTH OF THE
CURRENT LOW AND WILL BE ADDED AT 23/1800 UTC.
SCATTERED SHOWERS/
ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS ARE N AND E OF THE LOW WITHIN 120/150 NM
OF LINE FROM 22N58W TO 29N69W AND ISOLATED/SCATTERED SHOWERS
WITH ISOLATED THUNDERSTORMS WITHIN 60/75 NM OF LINE FROM 21N67W
TO 23N65W. GALE FORCE WINDS ARE FOUND FROM 27N-29N BETWEEN
64W-70W. THIS SYSTEM IS EXPECTED TO MOVE N AND BE N OF THE
REGION BY LATE TUE NIGHT THEN WILL DRIFT E THROUGH THU.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 90L

#99 Postby Hurricanehink » Sun May 23, 2010 12:44 pm

I'm surprised they weren't more bullish in the TWD.
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#100 Postby djones65 » Sun May 23, 2010 12:49 pm

The reason the shear values are "down" is because the upper level circulation is more closely co-located with the low level circulation. In other words, as the upper level cyclone tries to become stacked over the low level circulation the shear values will be low, but it is still within a large trough and very cold temps aloft. If the upper level and low level circulations can become aligned a transition could occur with time. I personally think the system will eventually become aligned and could become a subtropical storm by Monday night or Tuesday, but shear values are useless with this system and should be disregarded. This is not a situation in which the circulation is strengthening from the surface upward (where shear would be critical for it). Satellite imagery over the past 24 hours clearly show that the upper level and low level circulations are becoming more closely aligned. If this continues I believe we'll see a gradual transition to subtropical.
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