ATL: IGOR - Ex Hurricane - Discussion

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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#841 Postby Just Joshing You » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:40 pm

ozonepete wrote:
mf_dolphin wrote:I'm not missing the features you describe but I do disagree with that interpretation.



That's fine. This is a great place to talk it out and I've eaten plenty of crow on here. Not to forget to mention that you are one of the best people on here. :)

And this from the NHC 11PM:

"AN EXPERIMENTAL PRODUCT FROM UW-CIMSS RUN AT NHC INDICATES
THAT THERE IS A 42 PERCENT CHANCE OF SECONDARY EYEWALL FORMATION
WITHIN THE NEXT 12 HOURS...AND A 90 PERCENT CHANCE WITHIN 24 HOURS.'


If it was undergoing an EWRC like you claim it is, NHC would have said that rather than that it has a 42% chance of of doing so within 12 hours.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#842 Postby ozonepete » Sun Sep 12, 2010 10:43 pm

Just Joshing You wrote:
ozonepete wrote:
mf_dolphin wrote:I'm not missing the features you describe but I do disagree with that interpretation.



That's fine. This is a great place to talk it out and I've eaten plenty of crow on here. Not to forget to mention that you are one of the best people on here. :)

And this from the NHC 11PM:

"AN EXPERIMENTAL PRODUCT FROM UW-CIMSS RUN AT NHC INDICATES
THAT THERE IS A 42 PERCENT CHANCE OF SECONDARY EYEWALL FORMATION
WITHIN THE NEXT 12 HOURS...AND A 90 PERCENT CHANCE WITHIN 24 HOURS.'


If it was undergoing an EWRC like you claim it is, NHC would have said that rather than that it has a 42% chance of of doing so within 12 hours.



I never said it was undergoing an ERC. I said it is likely to - I actually corrected my first post to clear that up. And a 90% chance of it happening within 24 hours seems like it's pretty likely. :)
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#843 Postby ozonepete » Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:03 pm

Eye continues to contract...

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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#844 Postby ozonepete » Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:10 pm

The envelope/wind field is still expanding. This is going to be a really large hurricane.
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#845 Postby emeraldislencguy » Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:14 pm

why do we have to try to always analyse or be a tough critic all the time
i love this site but sometimes we jsut need to chill some
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#846 Postby HURAKAN » Sun Sep 12, 2010 11:15 pm

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Nice pic
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#847 Postby stormhunter7 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 12:00 am

To me and based on the data i have seen... i do believe that an EWRC started just after sunset. All sat imagery is showing the eye shrinking and becoming smaller. I expect in early morning the sat presentation will look a little less symmetric... but durning the day we could see Igor bottom out and go through another RI stage, very similar to Isabel 03. I really wish the global Hawk was based in Wallops Facility (sp?) (will be next year i have read) so that NASA could send it out over the storm in the far Atlantic and get some amazing Data sets.
This wv imagery is showing signs of DRY air in the eye... very interesting if its true. Outer eyewall could be trying to kill the inner eyewall?
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#848 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:24 am

whats sad is that it was and is a cat 5.. just no recon to verify.. there was as solid ring of convection around the eye ... im rather discouraged it was not upgraded to cat 5... i have seen many other cat 5's in my time and it has clearly been one... but the lack of upgrade is simply as by product of no direct data.
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#849 Postby Aric Dunn » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:33 am

hopefully in post analysis they will make it a Cat 5 ...
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#850 Postby stormhunter7 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 1:48 am

Aric Dunn wrote:hopefully in post analysis they will make it a Cat 5 ...


agree... in the last ten years we have learned from a scientific point, that the best data is on scene real data. While sats can catch the storm from above... until we get inside a system.... we usually under estimate a stronger system.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#851 Postby emeraldislencguy » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:06 am

it looks weake now what do yall think
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#852 Postby WeatherGuesser » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:12 am

This Modis Rapid Response image is 5.9Mb and 5,600 x 7,200 pixels.

http://rapidfire.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov/gall ... 0.250m.jpg

But it gives good detail and a shot down inside the eye.
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#853 Postby WeatherGuesser » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:16 am

emeraldislencguy wrote:it looks weake now what do yall think


I think you have a different definition of weak than most of us.
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#854 Postby KWT » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:25 am

I don't think Igor peaked at cat-5 Aric, it was probably close but given the heat content down where it is I'd have expected even deeper convection if it was to be a 5. No doubts in my mind though this is close...amazing hurricane either way!
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#855 Postby brunota2003 » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:33 am

WeatherGuesser wrote:
emeraldislencguy wrote:it looks weake now what do yall think


I think you have a different definition of weak than most of us.

think he meant "weaker"
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#856 Postby emeraldislencguy » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:34 am

it is late meant to say it looked weaker now that a few hours ago
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#857 Postby emeraldislencguy » Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:40 am

thanks havelock guy
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Re: ATL: Hurricane IGOR - Discussion

#858 Postby FlSteel » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:37 am

Good morning all, for the most part I just lurk, not an active poster, but I have been watching this storm all night and it appears to me that at worst it has been holding its own. In the last few hours it appears that from IR the eye has become much better defined. Don't know if this will strengthen anymore before an EWRC or not. But a darn near picture perfect storm. Definitly one for my archives.
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#859 Postby WeatherGuesser » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:42 am

Hmmm, no upgrade at 5AM. Still a four.


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500 AM AST MON SEP 13 2010

...CATEGORY FOUR IGOR CONTINUES WESTWARD...


SUMMARY OF 500 AM AST...0900 UTC...INFORMATION
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LOCATION...17.7N 48.8W
ABOUT 940 MI...1515 KM E OF THE NORTHERN LEEWARD ISLANDS
MAXIMUM SUSTAINED WINDS...150 MPH...240 KM/HR
PRESENT MOVEMENT...W OR 270 DEGREES AT 13 MPH...20 KM/HR
MINIMUM CENTRAL PRESSURE...935 MB...27.61 INCHES
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#860 Postby WeatherGuesser » Mon Sep 13, 2010 3:58 am

I guess by Wednesday morning we'll have a better idea of which islands might be affected.
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