ATL : INVEST 92L - MODELS
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ATL : INVEST 92L - MODELS
I can't believe the intensity but there is the information from the BAM models.
WHXX01 KWBC 122048
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
2048 UTC SAT JUN 12 2010
DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.
ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR
DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL922010) 20100612 1800 UTC
...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
100612 1800 100613 0600 100613 1800 100614 0600
LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 6.3N 31.0W 6.9N 33.3W 7.9N 35.5W 8.9N 37.7W
BAMD 6.3N 31.0W 6.7N 33.9W 7.3N 36.7W 7.9N 39.5W
BAMM 6.3N 31.0W 6.8N 33.8W 7.5N 36.4W 8.2N 38.8W
LBAR 6.3N 31.0W 6.6N 33.3W 7.4N 36.1W 8.4N 39.2W
SHIP 20KTS 24KTS 33KTS 44KTS
DSHP 20KTS 24KTS 33KTS 44KTS
...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
100614 1800 100615 1800 100616 1800 100617 1800
LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 10.1N 39.9W 12.0N 44.9W 13.3N 50.2W 14.4N 55.2W
BAMD 8.7N 42.2W 10.2N 47.5W 11.8N 52.3W 12.9N 55.8W
BAMM 8.9N 41.2W 10.1N 46.3W 11.2N 51.9W 11.8N 56.9W
LBAR 9.5N 42.3W 12.8N 48.2W 15.8N 51.3W 16.3N 53.0W
SHIP 55KTS 73KTS 75KTS 73KTS
DSHP 55KTS 73KTS 75KTS 73KTS
...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 6.3N LONCUR = 31.0W DIRCUR = 275DEG SPDCUR = 9KT
LATM12 = 6.1N LONM12 = 29.3W DIRM12 = 273DEG SPDM12 = 8KT
LATM24 = 6.0N LONM24 = 27.5W
WNDCUR = 20KT RMAXWD = 30NM WNDM12 = 20KT
CENPRS = 1012MB OUTPRS = 1014MB OUTRAD = 120NM SDEPTH = D
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM
WHXX01 KWBC 122048
CHGHUR
TROPICAL CYCLONE GUIDANCE MESSAGE
NWS TPC/NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER MIAMI FL
2048 UTC SAT JUN 12 2010
DISCLAIMER...NUMERICAL MODELS ARE SUBJECT TO LARGE ERRORS.
PLEASE REFER TO NHC OFFICIAL FORECASTS FOR TROPICAL CYCLONE
AND SUBTROPICAL CYCLONE INFORMATION.
ATLANTIC OBJECTIVE AIDS FOR
DISTURBANCE INVEST (AL922010) 20100612 1800 UTC
...00 HRS... ...12 HRS... ...24 HRS. .. ...36 HRS...
100612 1800 100613 0600 100613 1800 100614 0600
LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 6.3N 31.0W 6.9N 33.3W 7.9N 35.5W 8.9N 37.7W
BAMD 6.3N 31.0W 6.7N 33.9W 7.3N 36.7W 7.9N 39.5W
BAMM 6.3N 31.0W 6.8N 33.8W 7.5N 36.4W 8.2N 38.8W
LBAR 6.3N 31.0W 6.6N 33.3W 7.4N 36.1W 8.4N 39.2W
SHIP 20KTS 24KTS 33KTS 44KTS
DSHP 20KTS 24KTS 33KTS 44KTS
...48 HRS... ...72 HRS... ...96 HRS. .. ..120 HRS...
100614 1800 100615 1800 100616 1800 100617 1800
LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON LAT LON
BAMS 10.1N 39.9W 12.0N 44.9W 13.3N 50.2W 14.4N 55.2W
BAMD 8.7N 42.2W 10.2N 47.5W 11.8N 52.3W 12.9N 55.8W
BAMM 8.9N 41.2W 10.1N 46.3W 11.2N 51.9W 11.8N 56.9W
LBAR 9.5N 42.3W 12.8N 48.2W 15.8N 51.3W 16.3N 53.0W
SHIP 55KTS 73KTS 75KTS 73KTS
DSHP 55KTS 73KTS 75KTS 73KTS
...INITIAL CONDITIONS...
LATCUR = 6.3N LONCUR = 31.0W DIRCUR = 275DEG SPDCUR = 9KT
LATM12 = 6.1N LONM12 = 29.3W DIRM12 = 273DEG SPDM12 = 8KT
LATM24 = 6.0N LONM24 = 27.5W
WNDCUR = 20KT RMAXWD = 30NM WNDM12 = 20KT
CENPRS = 1012MB OUTPRS = 1014MB OUTRAD = 120NM SDEPTH = D
RD34NE = 0NM RD34SE = 0NM RD34SW = 0NM RD34NW = 0NM
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - Models
SHIP intensity forecast shows why it intensifies a lot,shear is not prohibitive.
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* ATLANTIC SHIPS INTENSITY FORECAST *
* GOES DATA AVAILABLE *
* OHC DATA AVAILABLE *
* INVEST AL922010 06/12/10 18 UTC *
TIME (HR) 0 6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
V (KT) NO LAND 20 21 24 28 33 44 55 67 73 75 75 73 73
V (KT) LAND 20 21 24 28 33 44 55 67 73 75 75 73 73
V (KT) LGE mod 20 21 22 24 26 32 38 44 49 52 54 54 54
SHEAR (KT) 10 5 4 7 10 12 13 11 15 13 14 14 6
SHEAR ADJ (KT) 0 1 0 1 -1 -2 -2 -8 -6 -7 -7 -7 -4
SHEAR DIR 60 101 76 51 94 109 135 159 166 207 207 261 259
SST (C) 28.6 28.5 28.3 28.1 28.0 27.8 27.8 28.0 28.5 28.7 28.8 29.0 29.2
POT. INT. (KT) 146 145 142 139 138 135 135 138 145 148 150 153 156
ADJ. POT. INT. 153 156 151 146 144 139 138 142 150 154 154 156 158
200 MB T (C) -52.8 -53.0 -53.3 -53.1 -52.2 -53.4 -52.6 -53.5 -53.0 -53.1 -52.7 -53.1 -53.1
TH_E DEV (C) 7 7 7 7 7 7 8 8 9 9 10 9 10
700-500 MB RH 78 78 78 73 76 74 72 71 67 64 62 60 55
GFS VTEX (KT) 0 LOST LOST LOST LOST LOST LOST LOST LOST LOST LOST LOST LOST
850 MB ENV VOR 29 32 27 21 18 13 13 -3 -18 -38 -31 -18 4
200 MB DIV 79 96 88 109 145 146 155 110 65 44 33 13 7
LAND (KM) 1368 1345 1279 1242 1222 1240 1221 1033 870 737 653 632 460
LAT (DEG N) 6.3 6.6 6.8 7.2 7.5 8.2 8.9 9.5 10.1 10.7 11.2 11.5 11.8
LONG(DEG W) 31.0 32.4 33.8 35.1 36.4 38.8 41.2 43.6 46.3 49.1 51.9 54.4 56.9
STM SPEED (KT) 11 14 14 13 13 12 12 13 14 14 13 12 12
HEAT CONTENT 53 50 39 39 40 38 37 45 65 71 80 85 99
FORECAST TRACK FROM BAMM INITIAL HEADING/SPEED (DEG/KT):275/ 9 CX,CY: -8/ 1
T-12 MAX WIND: 20 PRESSURE OF STEERING LEVEL (MB): 619 (MEAN=624)
GOES IR BRIGHTNESS TEMP. STD DEV. 50-200 KM RAD: 18.6 (MEAN=14.5)
% GOES IR PIXELS WITH T < -20 C 50-200 KM RAD: 58.0 (MEAN=65.0)
INDIVIDUAL CONTRIBUTIONS TO INTENSITY CHANGE
6 12 18 24 36 48 60 72 84 96 108 120
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SAMPLE MEAN CHANGE 1. 2. 3. 4. 6. 8. 9. 11. 11. 12. 13. 13.
SST POTENTIAL 0. -1. -1. 0. 5. 13. 21. 27. 33. 37. 40. 42.
VERTICAL SHEAR MAG 1. 2. 4. 5. 6. 7. 6. 6. 4. 3. 2. 3.
VERTICAL SHEAR ADJ 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 2. 3. 4. 4. 4. 3.
VERTICAL SHEAR DIR 0. 1. 2. 3. 5. 6. 6. 6. 5. 3. 0. -1.
PERSISTENCE 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. 0. 0. 0.
200/250 MB TEMP. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1.
THETA_E EXCESS 0. -1. -1. -1. -2. -3. -4. -5. -6. -7. -7. -8.
700-500 MB RH 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -2. -2. -2. -2. -2. -2. -2.
GFS VORTEX TENDENCY 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. -2. -2. -2.
850 MB ENV VORTICITY 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -2. -2. -3. -3.
200 MB DIVERGENCE 0. 1. 2. 3. 6. 9. 11. 13. 12. 11. 10. 8.
ZONAL STORM MOTION 0. 0. 0. 0. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 1. 2. 1.
STEERING LEVEL PRES 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
DAYS FROM CLIM. PEAK 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. -1. -1. -1. -1. -1. 0. -1.
GOES PREDICTORS 0. 0. 1. 0. 0. -1. -1. -2. -3. -2. -2. -1.
OCEAN HEAT CONTENT 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0. 0.
----------------------------------------------------------
TOTAL CHANGE 1. 4. 8. 13. 24. 35. 47. 53. 55. 55. 53. 53.
** 2010 ATLANTIC RI INDEX AL922010 INVEST 06/12/10 18 UTC **
( 30 KT OR MORE MAX WIND INCREASE IN NEXT 24 HR)
12 HR PERSISTENCE (KT): 0.0 Range:-45.0 to 30.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.6/ 1.3
850-200 MB SHEAR (KT) : 7.3 Range: 26.2 to 3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.8/ 1.0
D200 (10**7s-1) : 103.4 Range:-21.0 to 140.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.8/ 1.1
POT = MPI-VMAX (KT) : 129.9 Range: 33.5 to 126.5 Scaled/Wgted Val: 1.0/ 0.7
850-700 MB REL HUM (%): 84.0 Range: 56.0 to 85.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 1.0/ 0.6
% area w/pixels <-30 C: 49.0 Range: 17.0 to 100.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.4/ 0.0
STD DEV OF IR BR TEMP : 18.6 Range: 30.6 to 3.2 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.4/ 0.7
Heat content (KJ/cm2) : 44.2 Range: 0.0 to 130.0 Scaled/Wgted Val: 0.3/ 0.0
Prob of RI for 25 kt RI threshold= 58% is 4.6 times the sample mean(12.6%)
Prob of RI for 30 kt RI threshold= 38% is 4.7 times the sample mean( 8.1%)
Prob of RI for 35 kt RI threshold= 21% is 4.5 times the sample mean( 4.8%)
Prob of RI for 40 kt RI threshold= 9% is 2.6 times the sample mean( 3.4%)
** PROBABILITY OF SECONDARY EYEWALL FORMATION AL922010 INVEST 06/12/2010 00 UTC **
TIME 0-12h 0-24h 0-36h 0-48h EXPERIMENTAL PRODUCT (PrSEFoNe-model)
CLIMO (%) 0 0 0 0 <--- PROBABILITY BASED ON INTENSITY ONLY
PROB (%) 0 0 0 0 <--- FULL MODEL RAN NORMALLY
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - Models
^ I would be. That far out in the Atlantic in the middle of June? We would all be surprised.
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cycloneye wrote:SHIP intensity forecast shows why it intensifies a lot,shear is not prohibitive.
An earlier look at the GFS seem to show the upper anti cyclone retrograding with it. Much poleward movement though and it is shear city.
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Its going to have to stay quite far south to have any hope, or the shear is going to need to be lower then some of the models are forecasting.
That being said a short TD/TS is possibly from this system, like we saw with Ana in 1979, indeed given conditions out there are actually good I certainly wouldn't rule out this being our first system, if nothing else.
That being said a short TD/TS is possibly from this system, like we saw with Ana in 1979, indeed given conditions out there are actually good I certainly wouldn't rule out this being our first system, if nothing else.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - Models
Swimdude wrote:^ I would be. That far out in the Atlantic in the middle of June? We would all be surprised.
Never say never. Normally, I would say the same thing, but conditions are better this time around.
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I would be surprise either PT...Dean and Felix were early birds....Alex on the way IMO.....funny how the GFS only showed a wave out of this for the past 4 days. CMC picked it up first then the NOGAPS...
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Show time. If it moves a little further north, I agree, it is going to become Alex.
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ROCK wrote:I would be surprise either PT...Dean and Felix were early birds....Alex on the way IMO.....funny how the GFS only showed a wave out of this for the past 4 days. CMC picked it up first then the NOGAPS...
Come to think of it, 2005 had not many Cape Verde hurricanes, besides Emily, but they were rather early in the season.
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Re: ATL : INVEST 92L - Models
In a half an hour GFDL and HWRF will release their first run.Lets see what will be the intensity and tracks.
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Ptarmigan wrote:ROCK wrote:I would be surprise either PT...Dean and Felix were early birds....Alex on the way IMO.....funny how the GFS only showed a wave out of this for the past 4 days. CMC picked it up first then the NOGAPS...
Come to think of it, 2005 had not many Cape Verde hurricanes, besides Emily, but they were rather early in the season.
07 Dean and Felix come to mind...think they were in July though..
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cycloneye wrote:In a half an hour GFDL and HWRF will release their first run.Lets see what will be the the intensity and tracks.
Thanks cyclone. I can check back later on. A named storm would start to validate my worst fears about this season, even if we have a lot of fish.
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Ptarmigan wrote:ROCK wrote:I would be surprise either PT...Dean and Felix were early birds....Alex on the way IMO.....funny how the GFS only showed a wave out of this for the past 4 days. CMC picked it up first then the NOGAPS...
Come to think of it, 2005 had not many Cape Verde hurricanes, besides Emily, but they were rather early in the season.
technically most are CV disturbances that did not develope until they hit the monsoon trof in the carib that year...
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Looking forward to the GFDL and HRWF first runs!!
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johngaltfla wrote:cycloneye wrote:In a half an hour GFDL and HWRF will release their first run.Lets see what will be the the intensity and tracks.
Thanks cyclone. I can check back later on. A named storm would start to validate my worst fears about this season, even if we have a lot of fish.
John, I know how you feel bro...any cane in the GOM this year will paint the beaches black in FL...
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Ptarmigan wrote:Swimdude wrote:^ I would be. That far out in the Atlantic in the middle of June? We would all be surprised.
Never say never. Normally, I would say the same thing, but conditions are better this time around.
I definitely did not say "never."
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