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#4041 Postby Meteorcane » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:03 pm

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eastcoastFL wrote:The GFS,GFDL and HWRF all take it into florida or at least skim the coast. The Nogaps keeps it off the coast but has a massive storm still bringing rain and wind to the east coast


I don't get how all those models are taking it into FL if everything was so shifted east? the GIV data isn't in these runs yet right?


I only think the GFDL actually takes it to Florida, the GFS is quite far away actually.
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#4042 Postby CrazyC83 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:04 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:The GFS,GFDL and HWRF all take it into florida or at least skim the coast. The Nogaps keeps it off the coast but has a massive storm still bringing rain and wind to the east coast


NOGAPS is usually the worst model anyway.
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#4043 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:05 pm

Im not good with my z time but i just saw the 18z gfdl bringing a cat 3 into ftl.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Models

#4044 Postby Patrick99 » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:05 pm

What's the impact, if any, of the "Texas Death Ridge" on this system? Right now I see it very well-defined and a strong channel of NW flow around it and into the trough, coming off the GA/SC/NC coast - what's expected to change with that? What are the models doing with it, maybe nudging it eastward and flattening it out a bit?
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#4045 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:06 pm

tgenius wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:The GFS,GFDL and HWRF all take it into florida or at least skim the coast. The Nogaps keeps it off the coast but has a massive storm still bringing rain and wind to the east coast


I don't get how all those models are taking it into FL if everything was so shifted east? the GIV data isn't in these runs yet right?



I am not sure. HEre is the link to the models. http://tc.met.psu.edu/
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#4046 Postby Meteorcane » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:06 pm

eastcoastFL wrote:Im not good with my z time but i just saw the 18z gfdl bringing a cat 3 into ftl.



It is the most recent run, but at the moment is still a considerable outlier, I would really pay more attention to the 00z runs (due to the fact they have upper air data in them)
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#4047 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:08 pm

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tgenius wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:The GFS,GFDL and HWRF all take it into florida or at least skim the coast. The Nogaps keeps it off the coast but has a massive storm still bringing rain and wind to the east coast


I don't get how all those models are taking it into FL if everything was so shifted east? the GIV data isn't in these runs yet right?


I only think the GFDL actually takes it to Florida, the GFS is quite far away actually.



Here is the link to the 18z gfdl http://tc.met.psu.edu/

It makes landfall around jupiter
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#4048 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:09 pm

Meteorcane wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:Im not good with my z time but i just saw the 18z gfdl bringing a cat 3 into ftl.



It is the most recent run, but at the moment is still a considerable outlier, I would really pay more attention to the 00z runs (due to the fact they have upper air data in them)

\\Thanks, I wasn't sure how old it was but its all I could find for models and they all but 1 bring it pretty close to Florida with 2 making actual landfalls.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Models

#4049 Postby dolebot_Broward_NW » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:11 pm

Bocadude85 wrote:I would think the NHC will have to shift the track to the west a bit.. I mean the time frame for people in Fla to prepare is getting shorter and shorter...


Smart folks in Florida are already prepared. We are after all in the cone. Nobody that knows me has written it off. I reaaaaaly hoped the trough would dig deeper than it did and this AM when I saw the models all moving east I brought myself down from my heart attack level but I sure remained vigilant.
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#4050 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:12 pm

00Z NAM at 33 hours:

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#4051 Postby shaggy » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:12 pm

tgenius wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:The GFS,GFDL and HWRF all take it into florida or at least skim the coast. The Nogaps keeps it off the coast but has a massive storm still bringing rain and wind to the east coast


I don't get how all those models are taking it into FL if everything was so shifted east? the GIV data isn't in these runs yet right?



They're not only the GFDL shows landfall for Florida. The GFS is pretty good disyance off the coast and the HWRF is 50-75 miles offshore or so.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Models

#4052 Postby tolakram » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:14 pm

Please don't bother posting images if you don't use imageshack to make copies, they're useless in a few hours and certainly useless after Irene is gone. Please reference this thread: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=111268
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#4053 Postby tgenius » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:14 pm

shaggy wrote:
tgenius wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:The GFS,GFDL and HWRF all take it into florida or at least skim the coast. The Nogaps keeps it off the coast but has a massive storm still bringing rain and wind to the east coast


I don't get how all those models are taking it into FL if everything was so shifted east? the GIV data isn't in these runs yet right?



They're not only the GFDL shows landfall for Florida. The GFS is pretty good disyance off the coast and the HWRF is 50-75 miles offshore or so.


Right..but eastcoastFL was saying GFS and HWRF were as well... so I was just trying to get clarification.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Models

#4054 Postby MGC » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:14 pm

18Z GFDL moves Irene west into DR....doubt this happens. GFDL appeares too far south thus forecasting Irene to impact Florida.....MGC
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Models

#4055 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:15 pm

tolakram wrote:Please don't bother posting images if you don't use imageshack to make copies, they're useless in a few hours and certainly useless after Irene is gone. Please reference this thread: viewtopic.php?f=59&t=111268


The images i posted have a specific date in the URL....
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#4056 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:17 pm

shaggy wrote:
tgenius wrote:
eastcoastFL wrote:The GFS,GFDL and HWRF all take it into florida or at least skim the coast. The Nogaps keeps it off the coast but has a massive storm still bringing rain and wind to the east coast


I don't get how all those models are taking it into FL if everything was so shifted east? the GIV data isn't in these runs yet right?



They're not only the GFDL shows landfall for Florida. The GFS is pretty good disyance off the coast and the HWRF is 50-75 miles offshore or so.



The hwrf is very close to the coast and it brings hurricane force winds to the east coast of fl. and the gfs also brings it close enough to the coast to provide a significant even along our coast.
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Re: ATL: IRENE - Models

#4057 Postby bamajammer4eva » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:18 pm

Have to wait and see but Stewart who does the 5am discussion likes gfdl
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#4058 Postby SouthDadeFish » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:20 pm

The 00Z NAM isn't showing much of a second trough through 42 hours.... Keeps Irene between Cuba and the Bahamas.
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#4059 Postby eastcoastFL » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:20 pm

Right..but eastcoastFL was saying GFS and HWRF were as well... so I was just trying to get clarification.[/quote]


when i ran it, it was coming right on the coast making landfall. I just ran it again and it looks like it just falls apart so I apologize for any confusion its looking funny now.
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#4060 Postby gatorcane » Mon Aug 22, 2011 9:25 pm

The ridge is stronger in the 00z NAM.

Notice the 321 isobar near Bermuda

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