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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#481 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:26 am

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Ivanhater wrote:Yep, still too linear for my taste. Significant development still looks a few days away. The weaker it stays in the short term is good news for the Islands, but not so much for the mainland U.S.


When you say significant development is a few days away, you mean it wont develop after it pass the Lesser Antilles?


the islands are looking good right now unless it can develop soon and begin to deepen
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#482 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:26 am

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Ivanhater wrote:Yep, still too linear for my taste. Significant development still looks a few days away. The weaker it stays in the short term is good news for the Islands, but not so much for the mainland U.S.


When you say significant development is a few days away, you mean it wont develop until it passes the Lesser Antilles?


I just can't see a hurricane threat some of the models have been advertising for the Islands in a couple days. I do think we will see a TD later today as long as it does not fall apart today.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#483 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:39 am

Much too stretched out west to east. If this has a shot at becoming Emily prior to the Islands, it needs to burst solid convection over the center so it can consolidate. Westward 'ho until then.

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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#484 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:41 am

:uarrow: Michael,that is from a 2004 system :)
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#485 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:42 am

wrong image,,,, says 93 L lol :uarrow:
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#486 Postby wxman57 » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:46 am

Looks pretty good to me today, much better than yesterday. I think NHC's 70% chance of development prior to 8AM EDT Monday is about 30% too low. Appears nearly a TD right now, quite possibly is one.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#487 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:47 am

Lol, I copied the wrong image. Fixed to include this years system :wink: Still looks about the same though.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#488 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:48 am

wxman57 wrote:Looks pretty good to me today, much better than yesterday. I think NHC's 70% chance of development prior to 8AM EDT Monday is about 30% too low. Appears nearly a TD right now, quite possibly is one.


57,you see it too linear to be classified?
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#489 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:49 am

wxman57 wrote:Looks pretty good to me today, much better than yesterday. I think NHC's 70% chance of development prior to 8AM EDT Monday is about 30% too low. Appears nearly a TD right now, quite possibly is one.


well as a technicality it is... has a closed circ and is of course tropical in nature. since there is no real definition that defines a TC except a closed wind field. yeah it technically would be a TD. but NHC does not do that..
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#490 Postby x-y-no » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:49 am

wxman57 wrote:Looks pretty good to me today, much better than yesterday. I think NHC's 70% chance of development prior to 8AM EDT Monday is about 30% too low. Appears nearly a TD right now, quite possibly is one.


You don't think it has stacking problems? Looks to me like the developing LLC is at least a full degree ahead of the developing MLC, and is on the leading edge of the convection.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#491 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:51 am

wxman57 wrote:Looks pretty good to me today, much better than yesterday. I think NHC's 70% chance of development prior to 8AM EDT Monday is about 30% too low. Appears nearly a TD right now, quite possibly is one.


A TD looks like a shoe in today, but it is still too linear imo. With that type of presentation, it will probably struggle for a couple days until it can consolidate more.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#492 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:53 am

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wxman57 wrote:Looks pretty good to me today, much better than yesterday. I think NHC's 70% chance of development prior to 8AM EDT Monday is about 30% too low. Appears nearly a TD right now, quite possibly is one.


You don't think it has stacking problems? Looks to me like the developing LLC is at least a full degree ahead of the developing MLC, and is on the leading edge of the convection.


well the greatest low level vorticity is on the eastern side of the convection. hard to say where the single LLC will take shape. once some organized convection develops its going to continue to look like this.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#493 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:54 am

Ivanhater wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Looks pretty good to me today, much better than yesterday. I think NHC's 70% chance of development prior to 8AM EDT Monday is about 30% too low. Appears nearly a TD right now, quite possibly is one.


A TD looks like a shoe in today, but it is still too linear imo. With that type of presentation, it will probably struggle for a couple days until it can consolidate more.


When it slowsdown,boom.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#494 Postby Aric Dunn » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:56 am

cycloneye wrote:
Ivanhater wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Looks pretty good to me today, much better than yesterday. I think NHC's 70% chance of development prior to 8AM EDT Monday is about 30% too low. Appears nearly a TD right now, quite possibly is one.


A TD looks like a shoe in today, but it is still too linear imo. With that type of presentation, it will probably struggle for a couple days until it can consolidate more.


When it slowsdown,boom.


exactly. I was just looking at the steering and ridging to its north. there is a slight weakness coming up 50 to 55 W so it should start to slow down some today.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#495 Postby RL3AO » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:57 am

wxman57 wrote:Looks pretty good to me today, much better than yesterday. I think NHC's 70% chance of development prior to 8AM EDT Monday is about 30% too low. Appears nearly a TD right now, quite possibly is one.


Glad I'm not seeing things. Said I thought it was a TD at 4am and the next 20 posts we're "this doesn't look good".

Doesn't have to look pretty to be a TD.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#496 Postby x-y-no » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:58 am

cycloneye wrote:When it slowsdown,boom.


Yeah ... GFS slows it down over the next couple of days, and that looks likely to me.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#497 Postby cycloneye » Sat Jul 30, 2011 8:59 am

RL3AO wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Looks pretty good to me today, much better than yesterday. I think NHC's 70% chance of development prior to 8AM EDT Monday is about 30% too low. Appears nearly a TD right now, quite possibly is one.


Glad I'm not seeing things. Said I thought it was a TD at 4am and the next 20 posts we're "this doesn't look good".

Doesn't have to look pretty to be a TD.


Tommorows recon will tell the real story.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#498 Postby Ivanhater » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:00 am

RL3AO wrote:
wxman57 wrote:Looks pretty good to me today, much better than yesterday. I think NHC's 70% chance of development prior to 8AM EDT Monday is about 30% too low. Appears nearly a TD right now, quite possibly is one.


Glad I'm not seeing things. Said I thought it was a TD at 4am and the next 20 posts we're "this doesn't look good".

Doesn't have to look pretty to be a TD.


I think most of us agree on the TD status, we are just looking down the road a bit. Any significant development like some of the models are showing seems unlikely given the stretched out nature right now.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#499 Postby hurricanefloyd5 » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:02 am

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE SAN JUAN PR
524 AM AST SAT JUL 30 2011



LOOKING AHEAD...A LARGE LOW PRESSURE SYSTEM LOCATED ABOUT 1000
MILES EAST OF THE WINDWARD ISLANDS EARLY THIS MORNING...IS
EXPECTED TO CONTINUE TO SLOWLY DEVELOP AND THEN ENTER THE EASTERN
CARIBBEAN LATE TUESDAY OR EARLY WEDNESDAY. BASED ON THE LATEST
INFORMATION FROM THE NATIONAL HURRICANE CENTER...THIS SYSTEM HAS
A HIGH CHANCE OF BECOMING A TROPICAL CYCLONE DURING THE NEXT 48
HOURS AS IT MOVES WEST NORTHWEST AT 15 TO 20 MPH...AND ENCOUNTERS
MORE FAVORABLE CONDITIONS FOR DEVELOPMENT.

THERE IS STILL UNCERTAINTY WITH THIS SYSTEM...REGARDING ITS
FURTHER DEVELOPMENT...ULTIMATE TRACK AND WHAT EFFECTS IT MAY HAVE
ON THE LOCAL AREA. HOWEVER...AS EACH DAY PASSES...AVAILABLE
OBSERVED AND FORECAST DATA CONTINUE TO PORTRAY AN INCREASING
PROBABILITY THAT THIS SYSTEM WILL BECOME A THREAT AS IT MOVES
TOWARD THE ISLANDS OF THE EAST AND NORTHEAST CARIBBEAN...
INCLUDING THE U.S. VIRGIN ISLANDS...CULEBRA...VIEQUES AND PUERTO
RICO.
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Re: ATL: INVEST 91L - Discussion

#500 Postby TheBurn » Sat Jul 30, 2011 9:06 am

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