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#6341 Postby jonj2040 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:30 pm

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Re: ATL: EMILY - Models

#6342 Postby mutley » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:31 pm

caneman wrote:
darc87 wrote:http://www.esl.lsu.edu/quicklinks/hurricanes/2011/EMILY/images/Storm-05-Spaghetti.gif

Looks like more consensus to the East of Florida.

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That my friend is hardly a consensus.


Agreed. :lol: With every update, it just seems to get more and more interesting. Where you going, Emily?
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#6343 Postby jonj2040 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:32 pm

can someone pleas take over I got to go
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#6344 Postby Bobo2000 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:32 pm

It's like Emily is scared of the US LOL
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6345 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:35 pm

Silly question... so is the circle on top the last VDM I would assume so... if so it did not move ?

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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6346 Postby CourierPR » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:35 pm

Before folks go gaga over a supposed turn, the NHC says the motion is WEST in the latest advisory. I just finished staring at the RAMSDIS loop and I don't see a solid NW turn.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6347 Postby UpTheCreek » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:36 pm

Very novice question, but what might cause the NHC to forecast a strengthening from TS to CAT 1 all the way up towards NC? Mainly the SST's of the gulf stream?
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6348 Postby Bobo2000 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:37 pm

UpTheCreek wrote:Very novice question, but what might cause the NHC to forecast a strengthening from TS to CAT 1 all the way up towards NC? Mainly the SST's of the gulf stream?

Maybe. But Bret was in the same place and it didn't intensify.
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#6349 Postby mutley » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:39 pm

gatorcane wrote:Look at this 5-day cone animated loop:

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/archive/2011/gr ... p_5W.shtml


It's obvious that they are still expecting it to exit north quickly through that weakness, and that seems most likely. But it has to be bugging them that it is getting close to being iffy.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6350 Postby hawkeh » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:40 pm

SouthFLTropics wrote:She's gonna try and shoot the gap between Haiti and Cuba. What a tricky situation all the way around. Prayers are with everyone in Haiti that is going to have to deal with the rainfall and mudslides.

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Yeah I'm starting to think this as well. Shoot the gap between Haiti and Cuba get into the Bahamas then who knows.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6351 Postby ROCK » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:42 pm

Aric, with this being so weak...i fully expect the LLC to suck back into convection....center relocations we have seen this before back by the islands...
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#6352 Postby Bobo2000 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:43 pm

I have a theory. What if Emily moved a little more west and missed the gap, I mean that's a very small gap.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6353 Postby artist » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:43 pm

Aric Dunn wrote:Silly question... so is the circle on top the last VDM I would assume so... if so it did not move ?

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yep, it should be. I have been wondering where everyone was getting that myself Here are the last 3 vdm positions.
First from this mission
16 deg 47 min N
070 deg 24 min W
next to last vortex
16 deg 49 min N
070 deg 29 min W
newest vortex
16 deg 52 min N
070 deg 32 min W

Now I don't really see much of anything there
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6354 Postby Sanibel » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:43 pm

The slow forward speed is probably a slowing before turning into the weakness.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6355 Postby UpTheCreek » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:43 pm

Bobo2000 wrote:
UpTheCreek wrote:Very novice question, but what might cause the NHC to forecast a strengthening from TS to CAT 1 all the way up towards NC? Mainly the SST's of the gulf stream?

Maybe. But Bret was in the same place and it didn't intensify.


True, basically same area, perhaps Bret was pulled east sooner. Should the track be similar at that point, hope Emily pulls eastbound at least as sharply!
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6356 Postby Aric Dunn » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:44 pm

ROCK wrote:Aric, with this being so weak...i fully expect the LLC to suck back into convection....center relocations we have seen this before back by the islands...



yeah I mentioned that a min ago.. but I was wondering why the map changed actually.. look at the recon thread... two different images have different VDM positions
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6357 Postby KWT » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:45 pm

CourierPR wrote:Before folks go gaga over a supposed turn, the NHC says the motion is WEST in the latest advisory. I just finished staring at the RAMSDIS loop and I don't see a solid NW turn.


Its something of a recent development, but recon backs it up as does the Sat.imagery to a point...whether or not its a short term wobble or not we'll have to see but I think its probably heading WNW now...
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#6358 Postby wxsouth » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:45 pm

A find it interesting that the low-level wind field (while not terribly strong) is the healthiest its been since the system developed. The recon data from all 4 quads finally have the look of a consolidated, well-defined system, with no more indications of a stretched out broad low.
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#6359 Postby GeneratorPower » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:46 pm

Looks from the color scheme like it's just the BAMs and climatology which are advertising a Gulf of Mexico path. I would actually call that excellent consensus from the dynamical models.
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Re: ATL: EMILY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#6360 Postby stormhunter7 » Wed Aug 03, 2011 4:47 pm

From point 1 to point 3 (VDM)... is less than 12 miles and a bearing of 300ish.
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