ATL: NADINE - Post-Tropical - Discussion

[fci]

Strictly for science and research?

[vbhoutex]

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Strictly for science and research?

I would presume they will also be using the data to help with their classifications and advisories. I haven't seen anything that said it was strictly for science and research, but I could be wrong. Of course it is new this year so you could be right.

[stephen23]

I have a question. Is the center at 16.3N 43W or at 16.3N 46W. I can't tell. Seems in last few frames low level clouds seem to be getting pulled into 16.3N 46W?

[tropicwatch]

Looks like fish storms all around for September. Which is a good thing. Hopefully TD 14 will be a good girl and follow the predicted track and not bother anybody.

[HenkL]

Dropsonde data from the Global Hawk are published as usual for recon flights on
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAREPNT3.shtml

[cycloneye]

18z Best Track remains as TD.


AL, 14, 2012091118, , BEST, 0, 171N, 433W, 30, 1006, TD, 34, NEQ, 0, 0, 0, 0, 1011, 250, 60, 0, 0, L, 0, , 0, 0, FOURTEEN, M

ftp://ftp.nhc.noaa.gov/atcf/tcweb/inves ... 012.invest

[tropicwatch]

Dropsonde data from the Global Hawk are published as usual for recon flights on
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAREPNT3.shtml

Is there a decoder available for the Global Hawk data?

[HurricaneAndrew92]

IMO I still think TD14 doesn't deepen, misses the trough and strengthens steadily. My track says what I think.

[tpr1967]

Your track is already south of current position of storm and heading. I would think a bit more to the East is more likely.

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[HurricaneAndrew92]

Your track is already south of current position of storm and heading. I would think a bit more to the East is more likely.

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That was my 11am track, which is based off the last coordinates. I made that at 11. My current track will be released later today with a track similiar to nhc.

[MGC]

Should be slow to intensify due to the large size of the cyclone and the SAL to the east of the depression....should stay at sea I hope.....MGC

The above is the opinion of MGC and not an official forecast.

[hurricanes1234]

Developing slowly.......I am hoping this doesn't pull another "Leslie" - that would be really disappointing - not because we want strong storms to hit land, but we just want to see something amazing, while staying AWAY from landmasses. And, IMO, Leslie was simply uninteresting, to say the least.

[HurricaneAndrew92]

IMO, this system shows we should have no more systems make the full trek across the atlantic. Also, how do you start a new topic, want to start one in the winter on a nor'easter perhaps?

[cycloneye]

IMO, this system shows we should have no more systems make the full trek across the atlantic. Also, how do you start a new topic, want to start one in the winter on a nor'easter perhaps?

Go to the Winter Forum and you can start a thread there. Links to forum and to create a topic there below.

viewforum.php?f=22

posting.php?mode=post&f=22

[CrazyC83]

20120911 2345 17.0 44.7 T2.5/2.5 14L NONAME

Nadine at 11? Consensus 2.5 it appears.

[cycloneye]

SSD dvorak says is Nadine.

11/2345 UTC 17.0N 44.7W T2.5/2.5 14L -- Atlantic

[cycloneye]

SSD dvorak says is Nadine.

11/2345 UTC 17.0N 44.7W T2.5/2.5 14L -- Atlantic

And 00z Best Track is also upgrading to TS Nadine.

AL, 14, 2012091200, , BEST, 0, 175N, 446W, 35, 1004, TS

[cycloneye]

This is why both SSD and Best Track upgraded to TS. This ASCAT was the key.

[Cyclenall]

Developing slowly.......I am hoping this doesn't pull another "Leslie" - that would be really disappointing - not because we want strong storms to hit land, but we just want to see something amazing, while staying AWAY from landmasses. And, IMO, Leslie was simply uninteresting, to say the least.

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It will pull another Leslie, because TD14 is alive within the 2012 Atlantic hurricane season. If this were a different season, maybe . It may look good now and have fine organization, but once it hits 55 knots BAM! No more good looks and fortune for this one. Until it reaches major hurricane status (if it does, probably not; maybe not even hurricane status) I won't follow it other than brief checks. Does it become a hurricane or will it underachieve during peak conditions with open water all around it?

Is this still considered a fish storm if it hit/affected the Cape Verde Islands as a tropical wave?

[vbhoutex]

Dropsonde data from the Global Hawk are published as usual for recon flights on
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/text/MIAREPNT3.shtml

Is there a decoder available for the Global Hawk data?

I would presume they are using the usual dropsondes. If they are then the usual decoder would be used. If not I haven't seen anything published about a new decoder.