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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1101 Postby Blinhart » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:50 pm

adam0983 wrote:Does anyone think that Ernesto can turn into a Major Hurricane?



I'm thinking the majority of the people on here think it would be a big Major Hurricane. I think the question should of been who thinks it will not become a Major Hurricane.

I think the real question is will it follow the Southern edge of the Ensembles and skirt along South America and hinder the strength, or will it follow the Northern edge of the Ensembles and hit the Mountain Islands, or go right down the middle and have light shear and high SSTs.
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#1102 Postby bella_may » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:51 pm

Pray all stays safe in this storm! Hopefully it will steer clear of us here on the Ms coast
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1103 Postby Tyler Penland » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:51 pm

adam0983 wrote:Does anyone think that Ernesto can turn into a Major Hurricane?


Can? Sure. Will? Anybody's guess. IMHO, this thing could pose a major threat to the western Gulf Coast/Mexico region, but time will tell.
Really enjoying the discussion btw guys. Gotta post more. :)
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#1104 Postby ROCK » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:51 pm

Dean4Storms wrote:With Recon finding a much stronger system I suspect these models will shift a bit more north once they are fed the complete synoptics. We could see some stair stepping along the ridge.



agree.....some people dont realize when we say ridge its not some smooth curved line like we see on the maps. It has peaks and valleys in it which allows stair stepping.....
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1105 Postby timmeister » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:52 pm

adam0983 wrote:Does anyone think that Ernesto can turn into a Major Hurricane?


With the right track, with no shear and add the warm waters....YES.

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#1106 Postby AJC3 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:54 pm

Looking at the recon obs, given the fast forward speed, the areal extent of west and NW winds with this TC is VERY small - it barely has a closed ground-relative wind circulation, even though the surface/low level vortex is well-defined.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Recon Discussions - Comments - Questions

#1107 Postby Blinhart » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:55 pm

When is the next scheduled flight?? Will they add flights and do more flights for studies, like they did last year???
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1108 Postby hurricanes1234 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:56 pm

adam0983 wrote:Does anyone think that Ernesto can turn into a Major Hurricane?


I think so, at least once it hits the deep, warm 29-31°C water of the W Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico with the light wind shear of only 5-10 knots and the moist air. I think we may be tracking a Category 3 or 4, but a Category 5 seems quite generous.

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1109 Postby cheezyWXguy » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:56 pm

Time will tell how much it strengthens. We only have a storm that has just now been upgraded to a TS, a little early to be considering whether it will be a major since no model forecasts it yet.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1110 Postby Riptide » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:57 pm

hurricanes1234 wrote:
adam0983 wrote:Does anyone think that Ernesto can turn into a Major Hurricane?


I think so, at least once it hits the deep, warm 29-31°C water of the W Caribbean and the Gulf of Mexico with the light wind shear of only 5-10 knots and the moist air. I think we may be tracking a Category 3 or 4, but a Category 5 seems quite generous.

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Last Category 5 was Hurricane Felix in 2007, one is coming up very soon based on statistics.
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#1111 Postby chrisjslucia » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:58 pm

Along with the upgrade to Storm status, NHC have amended their forecast track and the centre of Ernesto is now shown be in line with St Vincent tomorrow, Friday. Rather than passing north of Barbados it is seen to skim its southern coast.

Plenty of time for more changes yet though.

Also the surface wind field shown by NHC is largely to the north of the storm centre, so Barbados would be well in line with that as would St Lucia and maybe Martinique if the tracking actually reflects the forecast. Anyone with any more info on this issue?

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#1112 Postby Dave » Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:58 pm

000
URNT15 KNHC 022055
AF302 0105A CYCLONE HDOB 34 20120802
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205130 1330N 05619W 6731 03424 //// +101 //// 096011 012 /// /// 05
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205500 1337N 05631W 5335 05323 0231 -021 //// 046018 019 012 003 01
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#1113 Postby Dave » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:00 pm

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#1114 Postby Dave » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:03 pm

FLIGHT TWO -TEAL 72-
A. 03/0600, 1200Z
B. AFXXX 0205A CYCLONE
C. 03/0400Z
D. 13.0N 57.5W
E. 03/0530Z TO 03/1200Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY: CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES.
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#1115 Postby Dave » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:06 pm

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This misson is over....heading back to St Croix now.
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#1116 Postby Dave » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:08 pm

FLIGHT TWO -TEAL 72-
A. 03/0600, 1200Z
B. AFXXX 0205A CYCLONE
C. 03/0400Z
D. 13.0N 57.5W
E. 03/0530Z TO 03/1200Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

2. OUTLOOK FOR SUCCEEDING DAY: CONTINUE 6-HRLY FIXES.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1117 Postby Weatherfreak000 » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:11 pm

Tyler Penland wrote:
adam0983 wrote:Does anyone think that Ernesto can turn into a Major Hurricane?


Can? Sure. Will? Anybody's guess. IMHO, this thing could pose a major threat to the western Gulf Coast/Mexico region, but time will tell.
Really enjoying the discussion btw guys. Gotta post more. :)



Western GOM/Mexico region? It looks to me like you're making a forecast there pal :wink: i'll hold you to it just in case Ernesto has other plans. Welcome to S2K!
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Recon

#1118 Postby JamesCaneTracker » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:12 pm

So that's 12 tonight right?
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#1119 Postby WeatherCat » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:14 pm

Good luck to our friends in the Islands who will experience storm conditions soon - please keep us posted as electricity and internet service allows!
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1120 Postby sunnyday » Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:14 pm

Is it too soon to say that SE Fl is in the clear? 8-) 8-)
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