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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1121 Postby tropicwatch » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:17 pm

bamajammer4eva wrote:Landfall Tallahassee

http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-p ... L&hour=177


Except that Tallahassee isn't on the coast. That area would be in the vicinity of Apalachicola-Carabelle.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1122 Postby Pigsnibble » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:22 pm

Yup, or St. Marks area.... SLOSH model would be bad for surge water.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1123 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:33 pm

Just for kicks here is the 18z NOGAPS.

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1124 Postby Hybridstorm_November2001 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:40 pm

cycloneye wrote:Just for kicks here is the 18z NOGAPS.

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Great New England Hurricane II :lol:
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1125 Postby Pigsnibble » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:41 pm

Like any recon data, next set will give us a better view. NOGAPS has its warts like everything else, but fun to watch....I like to watch CMC for potential development scenarios. It seems to see butterfly wing effects and develop them.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1126 Postby Wx_Warrior » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:42 pm

That model is to the "good model" like William Chung was to American Idol. Funny, but not good.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1127 Postby bamajammer4eva » Tue Aug 21, 2012 6:44 pm

weatherSnoop wrote:
Jevo wrote:
bamajammer4eva wrote:Landfall Tallahassee

http://www.instantweathermaps.com/GFS-p ... L&hour=177


3rd or 4th landfall... lets not forget about our friends in Haiti, Cuba, or South Florida

Not to mention, Tallahassee is inland



Oh yeah KTLH is 18 miles inland. Guess one could say Jacksonville and Panama City aren't actually on the coast either-only Panama City Beach and Jacksonville Beach.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1128 Postby BobHarlem » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:01 pm

The model layout for Isaac looks strikingly similar to Irene last year at this point. Everyone was discussing Florida, and none of the models projected it moving over Puerto Rico like it did. In fact, most were clipping Hispaniola and going over east Cuba, if I recall correctly anyway?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1129 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:06 pm

BobHarlem wrote:The model layout for Isaac looks strikingly similar to Irene last year at this point. Everyone was discussing Florida, and none of the models projected it moving over Puerto Rico like it did. In fact, most were clipping Hispaniola and going over east Cuba, if I recall correctly anyway?


But it's different this time because the models are in excellent agreement of Isaac going south of the islands and the ridge to the north is currently strong so Isaac should continue to move west.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1130 Postby WilmingtonSandbar » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:08 pm

I forgot the conversion. What time est is 0z? 0z is when the new models come out with the recon pass in it right?
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1131 Postby KBBOCA » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:10 pm

WilmingtonSandbar wrote:I forgot the conversion. What time est is 0z? 0z is when the new models come out with the recon pass in it right?


0z is 8 p.m. Eastern during Daylight Savings Time
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1132 Postby tolakram » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:10 pm

Right now EDT is -4 so 0z models are 8pm ... unfortunately I don't know when they first start generating output.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1133 Postby clipper35 » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:14 pm

Hurricane Alexis wrote:
BobHarlem wrote:The model layout for Isaac looks strikingly similar to Irene last year at this point. Everyone was discussing Florida, and none of the models projected it moving over Puerto Rico like it did. In fact, most were clipping Hispaniola and going over east Cuba, if I recall correctly anyway?


But it's different this time because the models are in excellent agreement of Isaac going south of the islands and the ridge to the north is currently strong so Isaac should continue to move west.

not all models are in agreement at this time gfs is more north into florida and the european model is to the south hitting the yucatan the american gfs is thinking a weaker bermuda high ridge and the european model is thinking a stronger ridge all other models are close for thee days out after that its up to how strong isaac gets or how weak he is everybody from the gulf to the east coast shoud monitor this carefully.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1134 Postby blp » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:20 pm

18z HWRF a little stronger towards the end.

http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2. ... =Animation
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1135 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:20 pm

tolakram wrote:Right now EDT is -4 so 0z models are 8pm ... unfortunately I don't know when they first start generating output.


1130 starts the output withGFS.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1136 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:21 pm

clipper35 wrote:
Hurricane Alexis wrote:
BobHarlem wrote:The model layout for Isaac looks strikingly similar to Irene last year at this point. Everyone was discussing Florida, and none of the models projected it moving over Puerto Rico like it did. In fact, most were clipping Hispaniola and going over east Cuba, if I recall correctly anyway?


But it's different this time because the models are in excellent agreement of Isaac going south of the islands and the ridge to the north is currently strong so Isaac should continue to move west.

not all models are in agreement at this time gfs is more north into florida and the european model is to the south hitting the yucatan the american gfs is thinking a weaker bermuda high ridge and the european model is thinking a stronger ridge all other models are close for thee days out after that its up to how strong isaac gets or how weak he is everybody from the gulf to the east coast shoud monitor this carefully.


I meant in that they're in agreement in not going north of Hispaniola and puerto rico, except a few models.
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1137 Postby Evil Jeremy » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:23 pm

I didnt see the new GFDL posted. Has a Broward County landfall in 5 days, much faster than the NHC forecast:

http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ ... MSL120.gif
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1138 Postby cycloneye » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:26 pm

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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1139 Postby JPmia » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:26 pm

Evil Jeremy wrote:I didnt see the new GFDL posted. Has a Broward County landfall in 5 days, much faster than the NHC forecast:


i think the big qualifier on this run is the land interaction with Haiti/DR.. it goes right over mountains over 10,000ft high! lol
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Re: ATL: ISAAC - Models

#1140 Postby weatherSnoop » Tue Aug 21, 2012 7:27 pm

Oh yeah KTLH is 18 miles inland. Guess one could say Jacksonville and Panama City aren't actually on the coast either-only Panama City Beach and Jacksonville Beach.

But there is no Tallahassee Beach
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