CrazyC83 wrote:If this becomes a subtropical cyclone without major weakening, what would the NHC classify it as?
I wonder if there has been a subtropical storm with hurricane force wind.
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Frank2 wrote:Dumb forecaster (sorry, pro mets) for that Halloween comment in his discussion - you can bet he'll get an e-mail from his supervisor, because as I learned when working for the NWS, that product is disseminated worldwide over the Internet and various weather and aviation and marine circuits and some countries aren't into that nonsense the way we are in the US and might not understand what he's talking about...
Frank
P.S. I had to laugh about that Tamiami Airport "loss of power" comment - that area always loses power, even in a thundershower (lol) - here in Fort Lauderdale it's breezy and the sky overcast - Sandy is 500 miles to our east, folks, so any wind here is just pressure gradient wind, as others mentioned earlier...
Aric Dunn wrote:homestead just had a gust to 52 kts.
Ptarmigan wrote:CrazyC83 wrote:If this becomes a subtropical cyclone without major weakening, what would the NHC classify it as?
I wonder if there has been a subtropical storm with hurricane force wind.
Heavy line of showers and squalls located along an WSW to ENE line starting to punch into Miami-Dade and eventually Broward and and Southern Palm Beach Counties...the lines have been falling apart some as they approach the coast but that line is moving very quicky so T.S gusts could be in those squalls as they move ashore:
wxman57 wrote:ROCK wrote:here it is again for you folks up in Long Island and NYC...
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That map will be completely useless for this storm (and for most storms), as one should never associated surge height with SS category. Even though this could have some hurricane force winds at landfall, this will produce a surge far in excess of that that graphic would indicate. This may be the worst-case scenario in terms of angle of impact and size of wind field. It is the wind field size, NOT the Saffir-Simpson category that determines surge height, and Sandy will be absolutely huge.
Another thing. I can't understand why the NHC continues to indicate sub-hurricane force winds at landfall. For days they didn't forecast Sandy to be a hurricane north of Cuba.
Macrocane wrote:Well subtropical Hurricane would be cool (to name not to experience)
Frank2 wrote:Heavy line of showers and squalls located along an WSW to ENE line starting to punch into Miami-Dade and eventually Broward and and Southern Palm Beach Counties...the lines have been falling apart some as they approach the coast but that line is moving very quicky so T.S gusts could be in those squalls as they move ashore:
Some have been drying out as they move inland, but we did get a soaking before sunrise in Cooper City and I'm sure we'll get soaked again - MIA will probably break the old annual record of 90" with this system - that's getting close to 8 feet of rain, folks...
P.S. When I refered to pressure gradient wind, that means (in my mind) that the wind we are experiencing is not directly from Sandy, but just the pressure difference between the high to the northeast and Sandy to the east...
jaxfladude wrote:wxman57 wrote:ROCK wrote:here it is again for you folks up in Long Island and NYC...
http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/826/nycsurge.jpg
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That map will be completely useless for this storm (and for most storms), as one should never associated surge height with SS category. Even though this could have some hurricane force winds at landfall, this will produce a surge far in excess of that that graphic would indicate. This may be the worst-case scenario in terms of angle of impact and size of wind field. It is the wind field size, NOT the Saffir-Simpson category that determines surge height, and Sandy will be absolutely huge.
Another thing. I can't understand why the NHC continues to indicate sub-hurricane force winds at landfall. For days they didn't forecast Sandy to be a hurricane north of Cuba.
Rarely seen you this concerned....
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