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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Models

#1461 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:09 am

Dynamical models are in good agreement on a turn toward the NW into the Gulf

http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ ... t1best.gif

Intensity models are favorable

http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ ... zearly.gif
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Models

#1462 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:12 am

Also, just looking at the European model, if the intensity is correct on the NHC forecast, the Euro breaks the ridge down over the Gulf which would allow for a NW to northerly turn. All depending on intensity of course.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Models

#1463 Postby Blown Away » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:14 am

Michael, can you provide a link to get that model graphic?
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Models

#1464 Postby tolakram » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:16 am

Blown Away wrote:Michael, can you provide a link to get that model graphic?


He directly linked (for shame), refresh to see the links above. :cheesy:
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Models

#1465 Postby Ivanhater » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:16 am

Blown Away wrote:Michael, can you provide a link to get that model graphic?


Look at the latest 00Z run of the Euro...you will see the 500mb heights move off to the NW from Texas and a break over the central Gulf. If Ernesto is as strong as forecast, based on the Euro it would turn north into the Gulf.

http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ecmwf.html
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#1466 Postby floridasun78 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:19 am

Dave wrote:Next Mission...

TD-05 FLIGHT ONE -- TEAL 72--
A. 03/1800Z-04/0000Z
B. AFXXX 0305A CYCLONE
C. 03/1630Z
D. 14.0N 61.6W
E. 03/1730Z TO 04/2030Z
F. SFC TO 10,000 FT

what time is that?
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Recon

#1467 Postby tolakram » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:23 am

1800z is 2pm EDT, same as yesterday.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Models

#1468 Postby floridasun78 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:26 am

it look like cone stift back to left a bit again
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1469 Postby Weather Watcher » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:27 am

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Doesn't this look like ernie is an old wizard, the black line I drew is his helmut.
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#1470 Postby brunota2003 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:30 am

It's not at 18Z anymore...from todays TCPOD:

3. REMARKS: BECAUSE OF THE STORM'S LOCATION AND FOR MORE
FAVORABLE CREW SEQUENCING, TODAY'S FIX FOR 03/1800Z
HAS BEEN SLIPPED TO 03/2200Z AND THE 04/0600Z
REQUIREMENT HAS BEEN CANCELED.

So it will start 4 hours later, or 6 pm EDT.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Models

#1471 Postby JPmia » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:39 am

Ivanhater wrote:
Blown Away wrote:Michael, can you provide a link to get that model graphic?


Look at the latest 00Z run of the Euro...you will see the 500mb heights move off to the NW from Texas and a break over the central Gulf. If Ernesto is as strong as forecast, based on the Euro it would turn north into the Gulf.

http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ecmwf.html


And the 00z GFDL is seeing this as well:
http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ ... lLoop.html

HWRF is simliar and little to the west, but weaker:
http://moe.met.fsu.edu/cgi-bin/hwrftc2. ... =Animation
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1472 Postby rockyman » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:45 am

Question for the Board: What effect, if any, will the Bahamas system have on the movement of Ernesto? If the Bahamas system hangs around long enough, could it cause a weakness in the Atlantic ridge and allow Ernesto a hole to pass through?
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1473 Postby canes04 » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:51 am

Rockyman, great question. I was thinking about that earlier.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1474 Postby Sanibel » Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:52 am

Weather Watcher wrote:
Doesn't this look like ernie is an old wizard, the black line I drew is his helmut.



Yeah I see it with the mustache. Like the old knight who guards the challis in Raiders.
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#1475 Postby RL3AO » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:05 am

GFS - 12z

36hr

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60hr

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78hr

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#1476 Postby RL3AO » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:06 am

102hr

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114hr

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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Tropical Storm

#1477 Postby tolakram » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:20 am

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#1478 Postby PTrackerLA » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:21 am

90L looking better than Ernesto right now IMO.
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#1479 Postby GCANE » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:22 am

RL3AO wrote:102hr

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114hr

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The ULL in the west GOM and the other NE of the Bahamas should really help to crank a poleward outflow channel.
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Re: ATL: ERNESTO - Models

#1480 Postby ROCK » Fri Aug 03, 2012 11:24 am

the key here is how fast the ridge builds back in and how organized Ernie is at that time....needs to slow down so it can stack up. Moving way to fast.

a lot of variables right now...

http://www.sfwmd.gov/portal/page/portal ... el%20plots


you can see the 12Z CMC is in and does bring this into the GOM heading NW....
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