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#2201 Postby Jevo » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:12 am

0z HWRF +36
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0z HWRF +48
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0z HWRF +60
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#2202 Postby lebron23 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:12 am

HWRF sure looks like its still bending west
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#2203 Postby jabman98 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:13 am

Channel 2 in Houston (NBC affiliate) has hired Bill Reed, the former NHC director, to be their hurricane expert. On the 10 p.m. broadcast tonight he had an interesting map with a graphic of the high and why and how it's going to push Debby west and a bit south. It was easy to understand and I think will be helpful for those less immersed in following hurricanes.

Just thought it was interesting that they'd hired him. Houstonians might want to know about it, since Debby might pay us a visit.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2204 Postby CYCLONE MIKE » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:15 am

Pretty much stationary or slight drifting around. Its the blowup of convection that we haven't seen until now that is is giving an illusion of moving north and east. Pretty much she is finally trying to expand out now since shear is decreasing and coming more from the south as well.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Models

#2205 Postby lebron23 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:16 am

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#2206 Postby Hurricane Alexis » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:16 am

HouTXmetro wrote:Somebody at the NHC or whoever updated the GFS is going to get fired. I don't know who will turn out to be right (Iv'e learned in the past not to challenge the NHC), but heads will roll. "If" the GFS turns out to be wrong, how embarrassing! People will really question it's future runs.



Is this the first time the GFS ever did something like this?
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#2207 Postby vaffie » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:18 am

lebron23 wrote:HWRF sure looks like its still bending west


Probably because it's representing it as a stacked, strengthening storm as opposed to a disorganized, sheared, weak storm like the GFS shows. 981 mb is a healthy storm--like 85-100 mph winds
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#2208 Postby Ntxw » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:18 am

Hurricane Alexis wrote:Is this the first time the GFS ever did something like this?


No, it is a well documented fact that the GFS is a progressive biased model (hence trough connection). At the same time the Euro is a cut off-centric model. Often times somewhere in between is the safe bet.
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Models

#2209 Postby Jevo » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:19 am

0z HWRF +72
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0z HWRF +78
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#2210 Postby NDG » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:21 am

0z UKMET shifted north and slower.
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#2211 Postby lebron23 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:23 am

00Z HWRF should end up in the same spot as 18z or just a bit south
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#2212 Postby Lane » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:24 am

That is a huge blow up of convection now, looks like she is starting to wind up.
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#2213 Postby Jevo » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:27 am

lebron23 wrote:00Z HWRF should end up in the same spot as 18z or just a bit south


Indeed

Edit: Looks to be within about 20 miles but 4mb lower in pressure

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#2214 Postby NDG » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:27 am

Tonight's 0z UKMET shifted north and pretty much stalls her for the next 72 hrs. I wonder if the ECMWF will follow suit.
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#2215 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:29 am

30 mins until the Euro rolls!

CAN YOU DIGGGG ITTTTTTTTT?!!!
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#2216 Postby lebron23 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:29 am

Whats the website to watch the Euro roll out
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#2217 Postby Evil Jeremy » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:30 am

lebron23 wrote:Whats the website to watch the Euro roll out


http://raleighwx.americanwx.com/models/ecmwfens.html
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#2218 Postby Kingarabian » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:30 am

I use IWM^
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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2219 Postby crimi481 » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:34 am

CYCLONE MIKE wrote:Pretty much stationary or slight drifting around. Its the blowup of convection that we haven't seen until now that is is giving an illusion of moving north and east. Pretty much she is finally trying to expand out now since shear is decreasing and coming more from the south as well.


When I click on NHC Forecast Points - no Illusion as to actual movement?
http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/eaus/flash-wv.html

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Re: ATL: DEBBY - Tropical Storm - Discussion

#2220 Postby JonathanBelles » Sun Jun 24, 2012 12:34 am

It looks like both camps in the model departments will be at least partially correct. The GFS caught the MLC departure currently taking place and the rest of the models continue with the westward motion. So, in a sense, Debby is going both directions for now at least:

http://jonathanbelles.wordpress.com/201 ... both-ways/
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