ATL: SANDY - Remnants - Discussion

[nashrobertsx]

does anyone know what tv stations on the east coast are doing non stop covergae and whether they have live streaming? thanks

[Stephanie]

does anyone know what tv stations on the east coast are doing non stop covergae and whether they have live streaming? thanks

I have no doubt that the main tv stations will have almost round the clock coverage starting tomorrow in the Philadelphia area. They do it everytime we have a major snowstorm. That would be CBS, NBC & ABC and I'm sure FOX will right there with them.

[MiamiensisWx]

The eye is becoming better defined as Sandy begins its turn to the NNE and then N:

http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/nwatl/flash-avn.html

I think the most substantial deepening forecasted by the models is underway.

The faster-than-expected turn might mean a slightly earlier landfall in S New Jersey and could really amplify the tides.

[Stephanie]

Yes it is Miami.

[artist]

does anyone know what tv stations on the east coast are doing non stop covergae and whether they have live streaming? thanks

http://abclocal.go.com/wabc/livenow?id=8857235

[kat61]

Yup, and leave the comparisons to post storm analysis. The "next" Katrina has been tagged enough times in the last 7 years that I'd rather leave her out of the discussion. Just my opinion. Come back to it about Thursday? Or when we are picking people off roofs? Which ever comes first?

I know I have not compared this to Katrina but can you understand that this Nor'easter is OUR gold standard for Nor'easter's??? There's nothing that will EVER hopefully compare to Katrina, but how's about a little compassion and understanding for those of us that maybe facing our own disaster? I know we all felt it for those of you in Katrina, Rita, Wilma, Jeanne, Charlie, etc. Don't minimalize this for us because it's NOT minimal.

Steph there is NOTHING minimal about this event! know that your homeis at S2K understand this. I have confidence that NHC is doing the best to track and warn. Listen to the science, not the emotion ... The sun WILL come out tomorrow..or by the end of the week...no pun intended!

[brock berlin]

Could this thing be collapsing? Is that what recon is saying about it?

[wxman57]

Could this thing be collapsing? Is that what recon is saying about it?

No, recon is finding that winds aloft are increasing. They're not working their way down to the surface well, which is typical of hybrid systems.

[Weatherguy173]

look at the waves at rockaway beach!
http://thesurfersview.com/live-beach-ca ... y-beach-ny

[curmy]

Sandy east coast webcams:

http://qz.com/#20761/watch-these-webcam ... ast-coast/

[brock berlin]

Shouldn't they downgrade this, I mean I haven't seen 60 knot winds in a long time, maybe make it a TS.

[HeeBGBz]

look at the waves at rockaway beach!
http://thesurfersview.com/live-beach-ca ... y-beach-ny

That doesn't look good. That's an angry looking ocean.

[artist]

Shouldn't they downgrade this, I mean I haven't seen 60 knot winds in a long time, maybe make it a TS.

000
URNT15 KNHC 290139
AF308 2218A SANDY HDOB 27 20121029
012930 3312N 07201W 6975 02832 9721 +070 +070 292041 044 061 013 01
013000 3313N 07159W 6963 02844 9705 +087 +078 290041 043 057 008 00
013030 3315N 07157W 6971 02833 9710 +082 +079 286041 042 057 008 00
013100 3316N 07156W 6968 02838 9721 +070 +070 288038 039 061 009 01
013130 3317N 07154W 6969 02834 9718 +070 +070 286040 043 061 009 01
just before they went back through the center just a bit ago.

[brock berlin]

Shouldn't they downgrade this, I mean I haven't seen 60 knot winds in a long time, maybe make it a TS.

000
URNT15 KNHC 290139
AF308 2218A SANDY HDOB 27 20121029
012930 3312N 07201W 6975 02832 9721 +070 +070 292041 044 061 013 01
013000 3313N 07159W 6963 02844 9705 +087 +078 290041 043 057 008 00
013030 3315N 07157W 6971 02833 9710 +082 +079 286041 042 057 008 00
013100 3316N 07156W 6968 02838 9721 +070 +070 288038 039 061 009 01
013130 3317N 07154W 6969 02834 9718 +070 +070 286040 043 061 009 01
just before they went back through the center just a bit ago.

Arent those flagged?

[HurrMark]

Shouldn't they downgrade this, I mean I haven't seen 60 knot winds in a long time, maybe make it a TS.

000
URNT15 KNHC 290139
AF308 2218A SANDY HDOB 27 20121029
012930 3312N 07201W 6975 02832 9721 +070 +070 292041 044 061 013 01
013000 3313N 07159W 6963 02844 9705 +087 +078 290041 043 057 008 00
013030 3315N 07157W 6971 02833 9710 +082 +079 286041 042 057 008 00
013100 3316N 07156W 6968 02838 9721 +070 +070 288038 039 061 009 01
013130 3317N 07154W 6969 02834 9718 +070 +070 286040 043 061 009 01
just before they went back through the center just a bit ago.

Some 62s and 63s were in there too...this is a toughie to get winds due to the large wind field and the hybrid nature.

[brunota2003]

No. SFMR flag codes are 03 and 05.

[brock berlin]

Ok perhaps I was incorrect.

[lester]

Shouldn't they downgrade this, I mean I haven't seen 60 knot winds in a long time, maybe make it a TS.

000
URNT15 KNHC 290139
AF308 2218A SANDY HDOB 27 20121029
012930 3312N 07201W 6975 02832 9721 +070 +070 292041 044 061 013 01
013000 3313N 07159W 6963 02844 9705 +087 +078 290041 043 057 008 00
013030 3315N 07157W 6971 02833 9710 +082 +079 286041 042 057 008 00
013100 3316N 07156W 6968 02838 9721 +070 +070 288038 039 061 009 01
013130 3317N 07154W 6969 02834 9718 +070 +070 286040 043 061 009 01
just before they went back through the center just a bit ago.

Arent those flagged?

no, light rain rates, and 01 doesn't mean that SFMRs are flagged

[artist]

L. OPEN SE
M. C23
N. 12345 / 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF308 2218A SANDY OB 15
MAX FL WIND 102 KT S QUAD 01:03:30Z
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[HurrMark]

L. OPEN SE
M. C23
N. 12345 / 7
O. 0.02 / 1 nm
P. AF308 2218A SANDY OB 15
MAX FL WIND 102 KT S QUAD 01:03:30Z
;

At this point, the flight level winds aren't going to tell you much due to the hybrid nature of the storm...there are far too many midlatitude components for that to tell you how strong it is at the surface. As wxman says, mixing to the surface is difficult with these types of storms. It is probably still a 75 mph hurricane.