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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2801 Postby Heatseeker » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:46 am

Maryland Emergency Management Agency official says the Chesapeake Bay Bridges are under wind restriction and will probably be closed within the hour.
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2802 Postby Terry » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:46 am

From Tri-State Weather:

Breaking Weather News: Aircraft reconnaissance aircraft currently flying into Hurricane Sandy is reporting rapid pressure drops which means rapid intensification is occurring. They are indicating 99mph sustained winds at the surface of the storm, which would make this a strong Category 2 hurricane. The storm would need sustained wind speeds of just 110mph to be a Category 3 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson scale.
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2803 Postby Weatherguy173 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:48 am

Terry wrote:From Tri-State Weather:

Breaking Weather News: Aircraft reconnaissance aircraft currently flying into Hurricane Sandy is reporting rapid pressure drops which means rapid intensification is occurring. They are indicating 99mph sustained winds at the surface of the storm, which would make this a strong Category 2 hurricane. The storm would need sustained wind speeds of just 110mph to be a Category 3 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson scale.


i feel like responding with bad words right now... i feel bad for what can happen... my gosh
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#2804 Postby gpickett00 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:48 am

Portastorm wrote:
gpickett00 wrote:Hey guys, I need some quick help. I have a friend who is out in Long Island and I'm worried that he's being stupid by not evacuating. Can someone please link me to SLOSH models of the area and/or tell me how bad its expected to be? His street is 600 Chauncy Lane 11559. Thanks a lot guys


Did you look here?

http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=OKX&product=CFW


Thanks, I didnt get anything specific about water levels there though. Please, if anyone else can weigh in by taking the address above and checking how much risk he's in I'd be so appreciative. If i can confirm that he's going to be in severe danger I can likely convince him to leave. I just need to do it before its too late
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2805 Postby Blown Away » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:53 am

Terry wrote:From Tri-State Weather:

Breaking Weather News: Aircraft reconnaissance aircraft currently flying into Hurricane Sandy is reporting rapid pressure drops which means rapid intensification is occurring. They are indicating 99mph sustained winds at the surface of the storm, which would make this a strong Category 2 hurricane. The storm would need sustained wind speeds of just 110mph to be a Category 3 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson scale.


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That's amazing, I never seen a 90 mph hurricane look so bad on the IR satellite. Last few frames the cloud tops have warmed near the center. Just defying the odds!
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2806 Postby ROCK » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:56 am

its almost not a hurricane in the true sense of the word.....its transitioning to a storm with 90mph winds and huge surge.

I dont know what Tri-weather is looking at.....we are watching RECON now and the pressure has remained steady as well as the winds...
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#2807 Postby Dave » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:57 am

The only recon plane right now is just east of Roanoke Island enroute to hurricane Sandy. No other planes are in the storm at this time.
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2808 Postby Weatherguy173 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:58 am

this is dune road, what do you guys think will happen to it? it's by Westhampton Beach.
http://o5.aolcdn.com/dims-shared/dims3/ ... bd2b05018f
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2809 Postby EyELeSs1 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 11:59 am

Terry wrote:From Tri-State Weather:

Breaking Weather News: Aircraft reconnaissance aircraft currently flying into Hurricane Sandy is reporting rapid pressure drops which means rapid intensification is occurring. They are indicating 99mph sustained winds at the surface of the storm, which would make this a strong Category 2 hurricane. The storm would need sustained wind speeds of just 110mph to be a Category 3 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson scale.



I don't see where this information is coming from?? With only one plane in the storm and yet to do a center pass I wouldn't believe this just yet.
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#2810 Postby KBBOCA » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:00 pm

From the latest briefing from the National Weather Service in Mount Holly, NJ (covers most of NJ including the shore, Philly, Delaware... basically "ground zero" for landfall)

New @NWS_MountHolly update minces no words: "Options for it to miss us have run out. This is our worst-case scenario."
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2811 Postby Frank2 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:01 pm

I don't see where this information is coming from?? With only one plane in the storm and yet to do a center pass I wouldn't believe this just yet.


Yes, I was wondering about that too - at this point there's the danger of false or bogus information or rumor - hopefully this is one of those...
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#2812 Postby Terry » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:01 pm

Dang. I hate to share inaccurate info. I thought they were a respected group.

Dave wrote:The only recon plane right now is just east of Roanoke Island enroute to hurricane Sandy. No other planes are in the storm at this time.
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#2813 Postby artist » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:02 pm

gpickett00 wrote:
Portastorm wrote:
gpickett00 wrote:Hey guys, I need some quick help. I have a friend who is out in Long Island and I'm worried that he's being stupid by not evacuating. Can someone please link me to SLOSH models of the area and/or tell me how bad its expected to be? His street is 600 Chauncy Lane 11559. Thanks a lot guys


Did you look here?

http://forecast.weather.gov/product.php?site=NWS&issuedby=OKX&product=CFW


Thanks, I didnt get anything specific about water levels there though. Please, if anyone else can weigh in by taking the address above and checking how much risk he's in I'd be so appreciative. If i can confirm that he's going to be in severe danger I can likely convince him to leave. I just need to do it before its too late

http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphic ... e#contents
don't know if this helps or not.
http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/refresh/graphic ... e#contents
this one - remind him this does not include the waves on top of the surge that will be high.
Also, this will be on top of the astronomical surge/tide levels -
6 TO 12 FT WAVES ARE EXPECTED ALONG EXPOSED
EASTERN AND NORTHEASTERN FACING PORTIONS OF LONG ISLAND
SOUND...PECONIC AND GARDINERS BAYS...AND NEW YORK HARBOR.
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#2814 Postby WeatherGuesser » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:02 pm

If this is any indication of the size of the system as a whole, winds near Nashville and St. Louis are forecast to be gusting near 30 tomorrow.
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#2815 Postby KWT » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:03 pm

BA, convection is shallow, but thats what happens when SST's drop away further north. This system's center is behaving rather closely to what some of those NW Atlantic systems in autumn act like...except this one has the added feature of massive and getting Barcolinic enhancement.
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#2816 Postby Evil Jeremy » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:03 pm

That's false info. They don't even have their info right. 99mph is not a strong Cat 2, and 110mph is not Cat 3. And there weren't any reports of 99mph at the surface. And there is no recon in the system right now. And there were no rapid pressure drops.
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#2817 Postby Hogweed » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:05 pm

Are we sure there isn't a plane in there not reporting through normal channels? In an interview on the Weather Channel they spoke to the Hurricane Hunter Director and he referred to an additional plane that didn't match with anything I was seeing returning data.
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#2818 Postby WeatherGuesser » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:05 pm

Not sure I've ever seen this in the NHC header:

Top News of the Day... view past news Last update Mon, 29 Oct 2012 17:02:52 UTC


NHC issuing advisories on Hurricane SANDY
URGENT: Dangerous Storm Threat... click here for additional important warning information
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2819 Postby ROCK » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:07 pm

reporter at Pt Pleasant/ NJ on the beach...reporting 50+ sustained, his anometer must be full of sand, hes reporting 90mph gusts...
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Re: ATL: SANDY - Hurricane - Discussion

#2820 Postby gpickett00 » Mon Oct 29, 2012 12:09 pm

Can someone please look at this map: http://www.nassaucountyny.gov/agencies/ ... _zones.pdf

and cross reference this address: 600 Chauncey Lane, Lawrence, NY 11559

My friend is there and I'm extremely worried, I don't really know how to interpret these maps, but it looks bad. I don't know how high above sea level he is, but I just need someone with more experience to verify that he's in severe danger so I can convince him to evacuate. Please help
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